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Old 12-14-2008, 12:00 PM
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Winter Tires


I'm going to be buying new tires soon for my 1998 Dodge Quadcab Shortbed 24-valve Cummins 4x4. What do you guys like on snow and ice? I noticed last year that I spent a lot of time with my front end sliding a lot, I was thinking it might be because of the heavier engine in the Dodge . I'm adjusting my brakes just in case they are not adjusted correctly. I need a little here.

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Do a search on snow tires, winter tires, things like that. Most on this site have said they prefer an all terrain over a mud terrain. If you look at snow specific tires like blizzacks, they are covered with grooves and sipes, so that leads me to believe that an all terrain with lots of siping will do much better than a mud terrain with large wide lugs and voids. Some of the tires I have seen the guys recommend are the goodyear silent armors, bfg all terrains, and toyo all terrains, and the toyo M55.
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I'm kind of partial to this one...

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...t=winter+tires
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I just put Cooper Discoverer M/S 265/75/16 E's on my truck. They are specifically made to run on ice and snow and from what I've driven in so far this year they are good! They resemble Michilen LTX M/S tires. They are made so you can install studs if needed and are sipped. They worked great a few weeks ago in a foot of snow we got.They are cheaper than buying the LTX's, got mine from discount tire.
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Sipes are good for icey conditions. Lugs are good for deep snow. In general, a narrow tire is much better than a wide one in the snow. My favorite tires for the snow were my General Grabber MT 235/85/16's. I don't think they make them anymore but realistically an all terrain with lots of space between lugs and lots of sipes make for a good winter tire. I have some Kumho AT's waiting to go on tomorrow so I can take my aluminum wheels off so the salt doesn't destroy them.

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Siping is the secret, then any good tire will do.
I run straight tread non aggressive highway tires year round with no problem and we do tend to get a bit of snow and ice in Montana.
More info http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos
Old 12-14-2008, 06:26 PM
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I went with Uniroyal Loredo Commercial All season. Where I live we get an occasional storm but when it does it is a b$%*&!! But the rest of the time it's Asphalt and gravel. I put a set of coopers on and ground them down pretty fast, about 18-20k. I am not a speed demon either, just normal ranch, work and around town driving. I am on my second set, I have about 25k on them and they are still good, at least 40-50%, they have done very well and are reasonably priced. I believe they are a 50k tire, but you'll have to check. The are nothing fancy, just a good all around gravel, snow, ice and asphalt tire. I believe the set of 4 was under $700.00.

Just in case, I also carry 2 sets of RUD 4x4 grip chains (all four tires), and a collapsable shovel under the back seat in case it gets really bad.

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I went with the National Commando AT 305/70/r16 They look pretty good
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I like these. Took me a while to bite the bullet and get them. They are hands down the best tire I have ever ran. Dick Cepek FC-II's. In the pic they have about 15k on them.

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Well I want to Thank you all for your input on good tires that will work on these Dodges. Anyway I decided to go with a set of El Dorado Tempura TrailCutter M/S. I went with a 10 ply tire for some of the loads that I deal with . These tires are siped everywhere and they have a great tread pattern. I work in the Tire industry and though that i would reach out and see what others reccommend.
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Originally Posted by infidel
Siping is the secret, then any good tire will do.
I run straight tread non aggressive highway tires year round with no problem and we do tend to get a bit of snow and ice in Montana.
More info http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/tireSiping.dos
Ive read that siping is actually bad for tires, especially hi-po tires that have specific thread design and it will alter thread design of the tire. Of course I'm not sure how true is that.
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I've never heard that siping was bad for tires.The way I see it , siping actually gives you a better grip in Snow and on Ice. Which I have found to be needed from time to time . Siping is getting very Popular.
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This is just experience. Take it with a grain of salt... perhaps tequila and lime too.

Siped tires grip well on ice and snow, the extra biting edges do make a difference. with an IR temp gun, I can report that in warmer conditions, they also run cooler, speed for speed, load for load, than a non siped tire of the same pattern. ( this comes from custom siping a set of tires )

They do tend to be softer than a regular duty tire, and so they do wear faster, and should only be used for less than optimum traction conditions. They are useless in those springtime muddy road conditions, during the shoulder season. They pack up like an all terrain, and its all over.

Some of the best luck I had in winter, was with a set of BFG mud T/A tires, that we siped, just to see what would happen. We had also drilled and studded them prior to the siping, just to test the difference that made. after pulling the studs, and siping, I can say that the sipes worked better in all but "glare ice" conditions.

Also, for fun... yeah, we're strange. we started siping bobcat tires, for running snow plows. night and day difference. Best traction we got was recapped with winter deep truck tread, then siped. Couldn't stop them then.

Just my 2 cents, less taxes and fees
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cooper stt's are great
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Yeah, I should have updated a while ago. I have been running STT's for 10,000 km now, they do grip better than the KM1's in a lot of conditions, snow especially.

I haven't tried the KM2 BFG tires yet, but I might at some point.

If you want the tread of the STT, with an E rating, go to TOYO


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