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bostiguy
08-04-2008, 09:13 PM
Does anyone have any pics or info on a decent home made set-up for filtering used motor oil? I would like to be able to maybe use a spin on filter. I was thinking of using a reservoir to pour oil into and then want to filter it through and into another reservoir. But, I don't know how to get it "pumped" from one tank to another easily. Even some form of gravity feed would work, I'm in no rush...
I would just appreciate some ideas...thanks
MikeyB
08-04-2008, 09:37 PM
I'm using 1 and .5 micron hanging bag filters with a capacity of 1.5 gallons. I hang the bag over a clean 5 gallon container and pour the oil into the bag and let gravity do the rest. I filter the oil 3 times through the 1 micron and then the .5 micron for the final filtration.
Pretty simple setup but effective.
The bags can be found reasonably priced on ebay.
MikeyB
roughstock
08-04-2008, 09:41 PM
I have a set up for filtering used oil. Works ok. Ill try to get some links/picts together.
I use this for a filter(replacement cartridge from any auto parts store):
http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2008080421330655&item=28-1296&catname=engines
There is also a pump on that website that I use.
Picked up some tubing/fittings from lowes. I pump the filtered oil in to a 55g drum for storage.
When I change the oil in the dodge, I strain it thru a paint strainer that fits over a 5 gallon bucket to get out gravel/debris. the filter it with pump.
I just got a farming magazine that has two articles on filtering waste oil for use in diesel. i'll try to find the name of magazine.
I really havent gotten in to a habit of mass producing it yet. "One of these days" projects I guess.
rockcrawler304
08-04-2008, 10:20 PM
I'm using 1 and .5 micron hanging bag filters with a capacity of 1.5 gallons. I hang the bag over a clean 5 gallon container and pour the oil into the bag and let gravity do the rest. I filter the oil 3 times through the 1 micron and then the .5 micron for the final filtration.
Pretty simple setup but effective.
The bags can be found reasonably priced on ebay.
MikeyB
How many uses do you get out of each bag? Or how many gallons do you get from each bag? I was looking at these to filter WVO to make biodiesel.
stinkindiesel
08-05-2008, 12:39 AM
How many uses do you get out of each bag? Or how many gallons do you get from each bag? I was looking at these to filter WVO to make biodiesel.
If you're looking to make biodiesel, don't bother filtering it. Run it through a screen collander to get out the beaks, claws, and big crumbs. The rest will settle out with the glycerine, and the tiny amount remaining can be filtered out with a 2 mic. spin-on filter when pumping it out into your truck. Or through a 1 mic. bag filter when you dump it into your "finished fuel" tank.
MikeyB
08-05-2008, 06:50 AM
How many uses do you get out of each bag? Or how many gallons do you get from each bag? I was looking at these to filter WVO to make biodiesel.
I'm guessing around 30-50 gallons per bag using WMO. Final filtering for biodiesel I don't know, but guessing at least a few hundred gallons.
MikeyB
rockcrawler304
08-05-2008, 07:47 AM
Thanks guys!
bostiguy
08-05-2008, 09:36 PM
Thanks for the replies. I was looking into those bags and was also wondering how much use you could get out of them.
Right now that'll work for what I need. Hopefully in the future I will need more if the bio-diesel plans ever get to come together...
shorthair
08-06-2008, 08:30 AM
Ok we'll do this again 4 years plus of experimenting have resulted in this. A tuthill waste oil pump 50 psi 18 qpm 115v thru a baldwin BF 1212 filter 2 micron rating with water seperator let circulate in barrel on timer 30 min duty cycle for 6-8 hours then add to tank in your desired ratio turn key & go.
Desert Dually
08-06-2008, 03:33 PM
Ok we'll do this again 4 years plus of experimenting have resulted in this. A tuthill waste oil pump 50 psi 18 qpm 115v thru a baldwin BF 1212 filter 2 micron rating with water seperator let circulate in barrel on timer 30 min duty cycle for 6-8 hours then add to tank in your desired ratio turn key & go.
Sounds like an effective set-up for sure! I'm just curious here, but what is the purpose of the 30 minute duty cycle?
shorthair
08-06-2008, 04:24 PM
Pumps live a lot longer if they don't get too hot & I've got the time.
John Faughn
08-06-2008, 04:36 PM
I have an old dual by pass filter system [ down to 2 micron ] ran 35 gals in a 55 gals barrel through this for about 15-20 hrs , then used my Diesel Craft centrifuge [ down to 1/10th micron ] for about 20 min. [ would have gone longer , but I had just set this up and it needed a couple adjustments ] , by then it had accumulated about a 1/16" of soot in the bowel , they recomend running oil through till it cycles through about 3-4 times [ that should take about 120 min.s ] so I now know that it works much better .
MikeyB
08-06-2008, 05:56 PM
John,
Which unit are you running?
http://www.dieselcraft.com/productinfo_OC_1.html
MikeyB
John Faughn
08-07-2008, 08:48 AM
This is not mounted on the truck , from what I understand , the oil system in the 5.9 will not work with these .
I use the OC-20 as a stationary unit for cleaning waste petro oils & in the processing of waste vegi oil for bio diesel .
MikeyB
08-07-2008, 10:38 AM
That's the unit (OC-20) I'm looking at. Appears the motor/pump assembly from Grainger #6PA30 would make a good setup.
MikeyB
rockcrawler304
08-07-2008, 01:20 PM
John,
Which unit are you running?
http://www.dieselcraft.com/productinfo_OC_1.html
MikeyB
MikeyB,
Any idea on the price for that OC20? I see they have the universal kits but found no prices.
MikeyB
08-07-2008, 01:25 PM
I found a couple of biodiesel supply shops on the internet that has the OC20 for around $299.
http://www.b100supply.com/OC20_Centrifuge_p/12805.htm
http://fryer-to-fuel.com/store/page14.html
MikeyB
rockcrawler304
08-07-2008, 02:31 PM
Thanks.
You plan on using this for WMO to run in your truck?
MikeyB
08-07-2008, 03:08 PM
Thanks.
You plan on using this for WMO to run in your truck?
I'm thinking about it. Not right away but in the near future if I keep running WMO.
MikeyB
John Faughn
08-07-2008, 04:24 PM
That's the unit (OC-20) I'm looking at. Appears the motor/pump assembly from Grainger #6PA30 would make a good setup.
MikeyB
I do not know the spec.s of either off hand , but 80 psi , at .93 gpm or 55 gph ,
at 170*F , is what they say the pump should be fed .
Graingers may say that a 1/3 hp motor at 1725 rpm , is ok , but I think that a 1/2 should be used and watch the rpms , a pump that is rated for the OC20 should run at 1725 , not all motors are at that rpm .
snowjoker
08-07-2008, 05:54 PM
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=PRM%2D88864&N=700+4294852562+115&autoview=sku Thats what i am using.
kawi600
08-08-2008, 02:59 PM
Those centrifugal filters arent cheap.. especially considering whats inside them.
But theyre the best way to get the soot out of the oil since they filter to sub-micron particle size.
You could filter, but youd need a lot of energy or time to process it.
the extra long bags work great when hung over a funnel / barrel overnight.
you can stack bags inside each other if that helps.
When I filter I just go down to 10micron since im lazy. Ideally I should invest in a 2micron element. I just pass the fuel through a racor 500FG on the way to the tank.
John Faughn
08-08-2008, 03:28 PM
Those centrifugal filters arent cheap.. especially considering whats inside them.
But theyre the best way to get the soot out of the oil since they filter to sub-micron particle size.
You could filter, but youd need a lot of energy or time to process it.
the extra long bags work great when hung over a funnel / barrel overnight.
you can stack bags inside each other if that helps.
When I filter I just go down to 10micron since im lazy. Ideally I should invest in a 2micron element. I just pass the fuel through a racor 500FG on the way to the tank.
Centrifuges are the cheapest way to get the cleanest fuel or oil , never buying a filter again adds up quick , having sub-micron clean fuel or oil has value , it does not take much to do it , pour it in - turn it on , use the same pump to fill what ever you want to fill .
fred hartson
08-17-2008, 10:12 PM
I have a 1999 Dodge with 168,000 miles on it. I don't use it much, only a couple of times a month to go to my hunting camp. I wanted to try wmo, not only to save $, but because I want to send some people the least amount of money I have to. To make sure it was filtered enough, I filter through a mercury outboard water separator/filter, then through a Goldenrod 15 micron water separator, then though a 10 micron Fram, then through a 2 micron Wix 33528 (same and interchangeable with a Fleetguard FF5320). It comes out looking like dark diesel. I do 5 gallons at a time and use one for each time I fill up. It filters by gravity, but if you are in a hurry, install a tire air valve in the supply tank and put in around 20 pounds of pressure and it will fly through. So far I can't tell the difference with running 100% diesel. Tractor Supply is a good place to find remote filter bases and filters. I found the 2 micron at a local auto supply. Everything cost a little over a $100 which payed for itself with 4-5 tank fills since the wmo is free. From what I know, the 99 Cummins is a low pressure fuel injection system. If anyone knows if this might work as well in a CDI high pressure system, I would like to know.
MikeyB
08-18-2008, 07:14 AM
Fred,
I'm testing WMO in my common rail. But at only 2 gallons per tank right now. Using 0.5 micron bag filters for the final filtration.
MikeyB
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