View Full Version : TRUCKS! - Making bio-diesel !!
Sidewinder
08-28-2005, 01:43 PM
Any one watching trucks. Stacy is making bio-diesel!:cool:
oscaroc
08-28-2005, 01:51 PM
I watched it sat. Looks simple I just wonder how much that set up is or if if you could make one?
MasseyMan1089
08-28-2005, 01:52 PM
Yes! I am watching it as we speak! I wonder what his brewing system costs? I'd love to experiment with the stuff. .70 cents vs. $2.54 a gallon. I'll take it!
Shovelhead
08-28-2005, 02:12 PM
That show was on a month or so ago.
Neat set-up, but the system he's using is ~$3,000. :o
Somehow, don't think that's factored into his 72 cents cost per gallon figure. :rolleyes:
http://www.freedomfuelamerica.com/
http://www.freedomfuelamerica.com/images/home_complete.jpg
Strick
08-28-2005, 02:15 PM
From what I have seen a cheap set up from Freedom would be about $3K.....that kinda needs to be factored into the cost/gallon.
I like the idea but it would not help me. I do not drive much during the week but only when I go racing. Making fuel at home will not help me when I need to fill up 700 miles from the house.
Plus driving around smelling like a french fry fryer would make me incredibly hungry. :D
Fronty Owner
08-28-2005, 02:26 PM
Im thinking a couple drums, a vane pump, 1/2 Hp motor, plastic tubing, and a handful of ball valve, tee's and fittings you can have your own. Granted, the titration kit would be a bit pricy, along with the calibration charts, but a high school chemistry book will help you out with that...
Alaskanwheeler
08-28-2005, 02:29 PM
You'd only need to make 1600 gallons of that stuff to pay for that contraption. Considering the current price of fuel in my area: 2.55US
A-Poc
08-28-2005, 02:38 PM
Would the results be any different if biodiesel was burned in a big rig?
oscaroc
08-28-2005, 02:42 PM
Is bio-diesel compatible with our fuel system as far as not eating away at fuel lines, o-rings and other rubber parts?
PistolWhipt
08-28-2005, 04:56 PM
... home-made biodiesel plant might bring the boys ATF boys around looking for your moonshine still :D .
Sure would be nice to defray some costs.
PISTOL
04ctd
08-28-2005, 05:17 PM
re-post, but in case no one sees the other post, DON'T DO THIS
just my .02 from reading, i'm not an expert, but:
it's an AMWAY scheme where you buy one, and sell another to someone. and so on.
those rigs are 1800 to 3000 if you GOOGLE, the scheme is why the price varies.
and those rigs are horrible. You have to GOOGLE it, but there's huge strings about unsafe, unusable, and just plain bad the system he's using is.
most folks had not made one good batch with that unit.
prolly start here:
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/
and look for the old post.
04ctd
08-28-2005, 05:18 PM
it's stick'y'ed here to warn folks:
http://forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6791
wannadiesel
08-28-2005, 05:30 PM
Seems like FuelMeister is the Banks of biodiesel. [laugh]
redhauler
08-28-2005, 05:58 PM
I heard someplace maybe last Sunday's Newspaper that some or maybe all the Love's Truck stops were going to start selling Bio Diesel. anyone else heard this? and do they have it at yours? Here in Texas Willie Nelson has started a Bio diesel truck stop near Hillsboro on Interstate 35 that's about half way between Dallas and Waco. little good it does me thou I would use it up before I could save $$
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Strick
08-28-2005, 06:06 PM
Last weekend on the way to and from AL I noticed a couple of J's that were listing Bio.
Shovelhead
08-28-2005, 07:31 PM
Doing a little reading on the link above and the links it linked to, I discovered that most agree that plastic tanks don't play well with Biodiesel manufacturing processes.
I found the following picture.
http://www.localb100.com/captionthreadrehosts/caption%20contest%20rehosts/meltdown.jpg
I think I'll pass on the $3000 Fuelmeister.................:o
Shovelhead
08-28-2005, 07:45 PM
Never tried it but this system seems to be the prefered Homebrew setup for manufacturing your own Biodiesel.
http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/appleseedprocessor/
And costs MUCH less than $3000.
besserheimerpha
08-28-2005, 09:38 PM
The best part of that show was that my wife just happened to be watching it with me. She said "That's awesome! We should do that when you buy your truck!":cool: But I agree that a homemade kit would by much cheaper than that FuelMeister thing.
Boatnik
08-28-2005, 09:47 PM
I can't find my notes on biodiesel but after doing a google search I found some interesting results. There is more than one form of biodiesel and some good, some not so good. One form eats fuel lines. Another reqires expensive eng. mods. Dig deep before you leap. Remember, if it sounds to good to be true, it is. ain't nothin free but "good advice".
Journier
08-29-2005, 10:38 PM
I think I'll pass on the $3000 Fuelmeister.................:o
hey shovel head, ive seen one worse than that, where all that was left was the metal stand, all the plastic was just in a molten puddle on the ground!
I want to make the appleseed reactor but i am waiting to get the Large water heater, i think they are 80 gallon? then i could make one batch and last 2-3 weeks that way it wouldnt annoy me so much :)
storx
08-30-2005, 01:13 AM
i make biodiesel in my garage... if any of yall are in my area be more then happy to show you it... i can produce about 250 gallons a day if i really tryed to and the price is around .93 cents for me per gallon at current methanol prices just waiting to see hwo the hurricane is going to effect the price this week
storx
08-30-2005, 01:20 AM
Originally posted by Boatnik
I can't find my notes on biodiesel but after doing a google search I found some interesting results. There is more than one form of biodiesel and some good, some not so good. One form eats fuel lines. Another reqires expensive eng. mods. Dig deep before you leap. Remember, if it sounds to good to be true, it is. ain't nothin free but "good advice".
i vote against your comment.... i running biodiesel for nearly 2 years now and it has been flawless.... my first few batchs i had slight problems with and even once i ruined a 55 gallon batch... but hey we learn from our mistakes.....all i know is my truck loves biodiesel......it drives so much better then when i put petro diesel in it on long hauls......working on building a good 50 gallon tank to put in the bed of the truck so i can make those long hauls and back and just refuel at home.....if there is anything anyone needs to know just ask ive pretty much mastered the art of biodiesel... now it takes me about 20 mins of labor to make 55gallons because i have it pretty much simplified.......
Jim Lane
08-30-2005, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Shovelhead
Never tried it but this system seems to be the prefered Homebrew setup for manufacturing your own Biodiesel.
http://www.biodieselcommunity.org/appleseedprocessor/
And costs MUCH less than $3000.
The story and instructions to the Appleseed processor are featured in the Home Power Magazine, it is free to download, it is the sample issue
Check this link, it starts on page #52. It seems like you should be able to make this for close to nothing.
Jim.
http://www.homepower.com/files/sampleissue/Issue107.pdf
Chrisreyn
08-30-2005, 01:45 AM
CUT AND PASTED FROM THE OTHER THREAD ON BIO------- after doing some more reasearch over the weekend, I found horror stories galore about the FuelMeister system. There are reports of fires caused by the methoxide fumes leaking, fluid leaks, all kinds of problems.....mostly due to the plastic tanks expanding with teh heat of the reaction.
I think I am in the market for a 80 gallon water heater and a couple 55 gall. drums......Chris
DISCLAIMER: i am merely reporting what is posted on other web-site devoted to producing bio-deisel. I have no personal experience with this system.
I have found about 15 websites that all have plans for appleseed processors, some more sophisticated than others, seems to be a constantly improving invention. some are ventless, some have complex plumbing so you never have to handle the methoxide solution, some are made out of 55 gall drums and some are out of hot water heaters.
I have been googling " appleseed processor for the last 10-15 days or so and its realy interesting whats out there......
Mechanos
08-30-2005, 03:12 PM
I have accumulated a 20 gallon steel drum (with a 60° cone bottom), 3 steel 55 gallon drums, 1 HDPE 55 gallon drum, 1 30 gallon HDPE drum and 4 15 gallon HDPE carboys, barrel pump, Teal pump, 1" clear water pump, and a barrel lift. Now I just need to get off my arse and put the stupid processor together.
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