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Trucks move this country!

That has to be one of the dumbest things I have ever read. Well either that or the "if you don't buy gas on date XXXX the price will come down". It's a toss up. Who is ABS-CBN news????? Not gonna happen but if you choose to park your truck there are 50 others that will be glad to haul your freight.

Plus when you do start to move you will then buy fuel. So they have a day with lower profits. The next several days make up for it.

I think it will show the politicians we are angry. A one day strike in itself won't do anything. It will show the publics anger at these prices. Maybe it will force some refineries to be built. Maybe it will make our elected officials put more pressure on OPEC. They do need our money, protection and military supplies. I am all for this symbolic strike.

There are too many carriers with good customers they don't want to harm their relationship with by shutting down . If some trucks shut down it will stop production at manufacturing plants and have workers sent home without pay . Will that gain truckers support ? I drive and I have no reason to complain . We don't haul cheap freight . We get paid for providing good service . Yeah , things are getting tough and we may have to make adjustments like slowing down a little or watching a little better for the best fuel prices but high oil prices are affecting everyone . Parking trucks won't accomplish anything .
Who wrote this article anyway ? Inform them thousands of people have known for weeks the protest (they are not calling it a strike ) is supposed to start April 1 .

Personally I think everybody should shutdown, cars an trucks alike, everybody park them. Pick a time like 2 pm Central time, wherever you are whatever your doing, stop turn off the key for 15 min. the first day....if that don't get there attention, the next day do it for a hour.

They had "Earth Hour" and celebrated as lights turned off.

Why can't the majority of people have a shutdown time and let those who imposed the regulations (and subsequent price increases) deal with the consequences.

Trucks bring just about everything. And this would be a good thing for sure. I cannot understand why diesel is higher than regular gas still. Oh well i hope this gets some peoples attention.

Like I said in another post here on DTR. IF this even happens, it wont change a thing. I know for a fact that our company will NOT shut down. We will run as long as there is product to haul. I just spent about 30,000 maybe 32,000 dollars of company money, to have a 7,800 gal load of diesel to be delivered to our underground storage tank tomorrow.

To the nay sayers .
Do not fall for the do not do anything , propaganda , this will work at least at some levels , practice for getting us together for doing any / some thing , if we do nothing , the few at the top will just squeeze more .
THIS COUNTRY DID NOT COME ABOUT BY DOING NOTHING OR SITTING ON OUR HANDS .
Show are so called leaders that we have a spine & will act & act again & again .

I'm not trying to be a "nay sayer". I'm just stating a fact. The company I work for will NOT shut down. The higher fuel cost doesn't effect us too much as we (the company) just passes on the extra cost in the form of a 19% fuel surcharge to our customers. Last month it was 16.5%. The month before that it was 13.5%. This practice is the same for most trucking fleets out there. So I really don't see any of them shutting down. As for the independents.........my guess is as good as your's. But I if there is a haul available, they'll choose to work. JMO.

If I even suggested a work stoppage to my boss.............well, I'd be looking for a new job in an unstable market. NO-THANK YOU. I like my current 14 year job.

Its a case by case situation , I know that its a trap that is hard to do something about , and with many bis. & individuals out there not every one is able to not drive / buy fuel .
Myself , I'm out of work & low on fuel , so if any work comes my way I will have to [ no choice ] , but what I am chewing on is the endless lack of doing nothing about so many things that need change because most are stuck one way or the other .
If some do this , then when the next call goes out to support an issue , then maybe more the next time , after a while , we may get some numbers .
Change only happens when there is movement .

Oh I totally agree with you, we, the people NEED to something. I've looked into Bio's and other fuel alternatives for our fleet. But initial setup cost, extra daily operating cost and availiblity have keep us dependent on good ol' Number 2. It just doesn't make dollar sense to our money managers and ultimately the owners.

Its a lot easier in the midwest , because there are a lot of processors around the central part of the country , but some have quit processing because of the cost of oils , methanol ect. , just something els to get up about .
If your in the truck bis , you maybe able to hall a tanker to base & get a discount , it would not suprize me if you could get at least $1.25-1.50 gal cheaper that #2 .

We have a tanker fleet. Hot Asphalt oil tankers. So I looked into that, since the San Diego pipeline terminal in 8 miles from our yard. THAT also doesn't make money sense. By the time we purchase a certified tank, pay for the proper permits, pay the extra insurance just for "fuel" hauling and getting a driver who is certified at the racks, paying my already discounted bulk price minus the current hual rate......well, it ends up costing us more. So we stick with doing it the way we always have. But I do "shop" the price alot. I get three, four quotes perday. When I'm ready, I pick the best price price. Of course I do consider loyalty issues seeing as one of my friends sells for one of the fuel jobbers; so if he's close I let him know and he'll match it.

By buying bulk, I save $.25 to $.30 per gallon.

To the nay sayers .
Do not fall for the do not do anything , propaganda , this will work at least at some levels , practice for getting us together for doing any / some thing , if we do nothing , the few at the top will just squeeze more .
THIS COUNTRY DID NOT COME ABOUT BY DOING NOTHING OR SITTING ON OUR HANDS .
Show are so called leaders that we have a spine & will act & act again & again .

That is a much better attitude then all the winers that sit around and cry that it won't work and can't get off their bar stool or couch and at least try. If we do it and it does not work then move on and try something else.
If our forefathers could see this now and what we have given away that they fought for they would kick our behinds with good reason.

the high cost of fuel is what is driving the prices up on almost everything. So if the trucking communnity want to strike i'm alll for it, granted nothing will happen immediately but when everyone starts to feel the pinch then something might get done. I know eveybody cant afford to go home without pay, but you cant have progress without a little pain. Just my opinion.

So what is the word on this Strike, Slow Down, Sit In, Walk Out or whatever it is called?
I hope it is not going to be an Aprils Fools Joke.

A few weeks ago diesel was going up almost every hour until it hit $4.29 here and then it suddenly stopped and hasn’t moved a cent for almost 2 weeks now.

I am currently paying $4.05 here in SoCal; I now have to charge an extra hour to my jobs just to cover my fuel.

My self-employed friends Pool Service is hurting and he is raising his prices, luckily he has wealthy people as clients.

Our utilities like trash collection and even the Pizza Delivery guy has raised their prices to pay for their fuel.

I also heard that California has the worst maintained highways in the nation costing the driver an average $900.00 per year for vehicle maintance because of the bad roads.

How much of the fuel tax is supposed to go for Highway Repair?

It gets me sick when I spend $80.00 and only get 19 gallons of fuel.

A few weeks ago after all of the fuel prices were up to $4.09/ gal. To $4.29/ gal. I found a local station that was $3.69 and was excited to be paying this much; it then went to $3.79/ gal. $3.89/gal.

In about a week it was up with the rest of the stations at $4.05. gal.

Now can somebody explain how they were selling it for $.40 cheaper than the exact same brand stations one block down the street on the same main highway?

I thought they all had to pay the same wholesale price

I saw the tanker drop fuel 3 times in that period of time.

This was an Arco station.

These are the things that keep me awake at night thinking.

Jim

So what is the word on this Strike, Slow Down, Sit In, Walk Out or whatever it is called?
I hope it is not going to be an Aprils Fools Joke.

A few weeks ago diesel was going up almost every hour until it hit $4.29 here and then it suddenly stopped and hasn’t moved a cent for almost 2 weeks now.

I am currently paying $4.05 here in SoCal; I now have to charge an extra hour to my jobs just to cover my fuel.

My self-employed friends Pool Service is hurting and he is raising his prices, luckily he has wealthy people as clients.

Our utilities like trash collection and even the Pizza Delivery guy has raised their prices to pay for their fuel.

I also heard that California has the worst maintained highways in the nation costing the driver an average $900.00 per year for vehicle maintance because of the bad roads.

How much of the fuel tax is supposed to go for Highway Repair?

It gets me sick when I spend $80.00 and only get 19 gallons of fuel.

Remember their is no gouging or rip off's going on just ask your state rep's
A few weeks ago after all of the fuel prices were up to $4.09/ gal. To $4.29/ gal. I found a local station that was $3.69 and was excited to be paying this much; it then went to $3.79/ gal. $3.89/gal.

In about a week it was up with the rest of the stations at $4.05. gal.

Now can somebody explain how they were selling it for $.40 cheaper than the exact same brand stations one block down the street on the same main highway?

I thought they all had to pay the same wholesale price

I saw the tanker drop fuel 3 times in that period of time.

This was an Arco station.

These are the things that keep me awake at night thinking.

Jim

Remember their is no gouging or rip off's going on just ask the oil co or your state reps [laugh] [verymad] i am sure they will tell you the truth must be the other Arco stations along with everybody else are paying a LITTLE higher delivery charge. No big deal right and no price fixing either it's only .40 on a gallon times how many gallons per day [tapdshut] [tapdshut]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,344170,00.html

I do not know all the details , but there is a station here in MN that the owner named , My station , a friend lives near by , and works for the state road crew , he tells me that a while back the guy got ****** at gas prices , & was selling for [ I do not remember ] but it was something like if others were $2.50 gal. , then he sold it like $1.00 , there may have been a larger difference , I would have to check , the government came in and took him to court , on what charges I would have to check & see , so that shows that the fix is in , at all levels .
An similar issue is that when the contract to the station owner , franchise what ever , that they are not allowed to sell alt fuels , again just something els thats out there , but the details would take a little effort .

I do not know all the details , but there is a station here in MN that the owner named , My station , a friend lives near by , and works for the state road crew , he tells me that a while back the guy got ****** at gas prices , & was selling for [ I do not remember ] but it was something like if others were $2.50 gal. , then he sold it like $1.00 , there may have been a larger difference , I would have to check , the government came in and took him to court , on what charges I would have to check & see , so that shows that the fix is in , at all levels .
An similar issue is that when the contract to the station owner , franchise what ever , that they are not allowed to sell alt fuels , again just something els thats out there , but the details would take a little effort .

In most states the station has to sell at a minimum set percentage above what they paid for the fuel. This was done so companies like Chevron, BP etc couldn't take a hit to put other stations in an area out of business.

Kind of embarassing all the media attention this got and the interstates where I'm at look like they do every other normal day. Knew it was gonna be a joke and wouldn't help or change anything even if it did happen. I don't and would not ever support such foolishness. The world is growing and everybody uses oil. The shutdown is as rediculous and pointless as a story I see on drudge today of Congress "grilling top oil industry executives" - http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080401/D8VP0SK00.html How about when they get through grilling the oil industry execs they set themselves up in the witness stand and explain to the people how the 2.4 trillion they collect in profits is so much better than the billions oil companies make? At least oil companies provide something useful but I can't think of one good thing Congress does with my money.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/

IRS Collected $2.4 Trillion in FY 2007
How much does the federal government take in through income tax? During fiscal year 2007 (Oct. 1, 2006, to Sept. 30, 2007) the IRS reported collecting a total of almost $2.4 trillion after refunds, with $248.6 billion of that coming from individual taxpayers.
As in recent years, about $350 billion in taxes due went uncollected, representing an annual phenomenon the IRS calls the "tax gap."

In processing more than 235 million individual and business tax returns, the IRS spent an average of 40 cents to collect each $100 of taxes, the lowest cost per $100 in seven years.

The IRS Takes and Gives Back: While it often seems like they are all about "take," the IRS paid out tax refunds totaling $248.6 billion to more than 114 individual tax return filers, and answered more than 33.2 million toll-free calls from taxpayers during 2007.

taildragger , I am a little familiar with that , but doesn't it seem odd that it is being used in the other direction than intended ?
I use to have a station and was around 20-30 yrs ago when this came about to protect the independent , now its used against the independent ?

T
Who is ABS-CBN news?????
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Its a News organization in the Philippines on the web. I love the Phillipine islands, they are probably better the Hawaii Island, and things are a whole cheaper there too. Long Live the Jeepney!
Doug.