dodgerdog

I'm trying to determine what would be the best overall tire brand for AT M+S. I live up in the Colorado mountains - so there are plenty of snow pak and icy road days in Winter, and gravel roads or asphalt and interstate roads otherwise. I'm considering the Michelin AT2 tires - would appreciate some tips on what would be the best all seson tire and correct sizing. Thanks, DD

nickg

mine calls for a 245 75 16 but I've found my speedo is off 6-7kmph according to my GPS, with 265 75 16 my actual speed matches the GPS.
I installed new Michelins in July 08 and they are just about wore out, I'll be trying another brand likely in another month.
My suggestion (if studs are legal there) is to get a cheap studable tire for the winter months, once you have driven studded tires you will NEVER go back to an All Season again

Mechanos

I'll toss in my vote for BFG AT/KOs in a load range E. I had a set on my old Dodge and they wore like iron, but worked well in just about everything except gooey, sticky mud. I have set on my current truck and they too are wearing very well. My old tire on the current truck were 265/75's, but they looked a little small in the wheel wells so I went with 285/75's this time.

dodgerdog

thanks for the replies: I hear yah on the studded tire swap in/out during Winter season, but I do get on the interstate during Winter to drive down to Denver or to Grand Junction about once/month.
I am considering the BFG AT/KO tire. I have had an earlier version of this tire on a Tropper that I use to take on some pretty serious roads, but the tire rack only has them in load range D, and they are flagged for some reason as not be rated for Winter snow: NOTE: While most BFGoodrich All-Terrain T/A KO tires meet the industry's severe snow service requirements (and are branded with the mountain/snowflake symbol), selected tires do not. Tires not meeting the industry's severe snow service requirements are identified on the Sizes & Pricing page, as well as the Specs page with a "Not Rated For Severe Snow" notation to the immediate right of each applicable tire size.

Is that a fluke or is there something wrong with the rubber type for Winter season handling?

RowJ

That 'Flag' makes no sense?? I would take it as covering there butts for some silly reason.

I love the BFG A/T's. As stated ... great in all conditions, except they don't clear well in mud.
My next set will be the new BFG KM2. Replaced the MT and appears to be excellent. no louder than the A/T's and better all around tread design.
For mileage, I believe the BFG's are #1.

Size depends on your needs. E-rating can't go over 265's, I think? Want bigger for appearence (filling wheel well) and longer life.... 285's or 315's. I think the 285's are the best all around compromise, but will throw your Speedometer off a bit.... if that is a biggy for you?

RJ

Mechanos

??????
I have a set of 285/75 R16's in load range E (BFG A/T KO).


Yeah, they threw off my speedo a bit, but I looked up the Revs/mile figure off the BFG website and printed that page out. I took it with me to the dealer and they reflashed my truck with the correct revs/mile figure and now the speedo is spot on.

Dave2001

I just bought the XC LT4s sold at Sears, 265/75 R16/E. 60,000 miles warranty. The previous owner put AT2s on it and I got no mileage on them, about 30,000 miles. I had the XC LT4s on my Explorer and got good wear on them, had about 40,000 miles on them when I sold it with lots of tread left. Also have them on my Xterra. I like them for an all season tire.

RowJ

Thanks! Meant to look it up but got busy.
Looks like the only E-rated, aggressive tread in 315's are the Toyo M/T's. Love the look but I know no one that as gotten much over 30,000 miles from them.

My BFG M/T's (D-rated) are going to hit 45,000 easy. Wish they still made them! Got too expensive, I have heard?

RJ

sjester

Treadwright (http://treadwright.com) made a set of 285/75/16 Load Range E tires on BFG casings with their ATB tread design (looks just like the BF Goodrich). They don't list them in a load range E but will make them. I had the ultra grip (ground up nutshells) added. Only 1,000 miles on them so far but they seem to eat the Wyoming snow up.

dodgerdog

Thanks all for the replies. I've been looking at BFG AT/KO, Michelin AT2 and it now looks like I'm gonna settle on a Cooper ATR tire with a size of 265/75 R16. It would be great if I could get some feedback before proceeding with the Cooper tire? Thanks, DD

J.Suplanski

BFG KM2's are hot new ones!

dodgerdog

yeah those BFG KM2's look like great especially for off road. I'm looking for an all season AT tire like the Cooper ATR. Thanks, DD

JoeCanuck

My BFG AT/KO's have served me very well so far this winter. I've dug through deep snow and slush and give good traction on ice...even at -40.

They are D rated and have the mountain/snowflake symbol. I believe the blackwall E rated tires are not severe weather rated. I have no idea what the differences are. It could be that the E rated tires, at their max 85 psi, don't meet the traction standards. My guess is that they are just too hard in winter. That doesn't mean that they can't be aired down, of course.

I have no regrets about my purchase.

sjester

RE: Cooper ATR

Currently running them on my company truck. Have 30,0000+ miles on them. Holding up well, still decent tread life left. Good performance in snow, on wet pavement and dry. Very little experience with them in mud, never had them in deep mud. Ran them on a previous company truck as well. On the Ford they wore like iron. The current set is on a Tacoma and went with P rated (same size that you are considering so be careful when you buy) to save on weight. The ones on the Ford (F150 Supercrew) were LT rated and I got more miles out of those than I'm going to get out of these. Will likely put another set on the Tacoma when needed

RowJ

I figured out why I was confused. No BFG A/T, E-rated 285's for 17" wheels.... only for 16"?? Curious.
http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/specs...t-a-ko/44.html

RJ