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Old 05-19-2007, 06:19 PM
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Swirls in paint. Removal??

Ok Im sick and tired of washing my truck and seing thoese little swirl marks from where someone that didnt know what they were doing waxed it. My truck is black so it looks really nasty. So does anyone know how to get rid of them?? I thought about thoese clay bar things, but I have never used one before. Thanks.
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i get a bunch of my stuff here, http://www.griotsgarage.com/index.jsp

also this stuff is good, http://www.meguiars.com/?pro-cleaner.../Swirl-Remover

then a bunch of work. I have a couple different, well 3 different buffers to help make the work easier.
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I just clay bared mine and it made a big differance.My 06 is also black.Of course it's raining out now.No pictures.I used Meguiar's Smooth Surface Clay Kit and followed it up with the discontinued Meguiar's Mirror Glaze #16.Alot of work but worth it.Paint is smooth now.I got this off Meguiar's website: Does clay remove scratches and swirls?

No, clay does not remove scratches and swirls. Keep in mind, scratches, swirls, oxidation and stains are all imperfections that are below the surface and require a specialized paint cleaner such as ScratchX or Deep Crystal Paint Cleaner. Clay, on the other hand, is designed specifically for above surface bonded contaminants, such as tree sap mist, industrial fallout, over-spray and road tar. It is important to evaluate your surface to determine which method of imperfection correction your paint may require. In some cases your vehicle may require the use of both clay and paint cleaners for optimal results.
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Thanks for the info guys. Im worried about using a power buffer on my panit and screwing it up. That and I dont own a buffer either. Man, I knew there was no easy fix.
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random orbit buffers are easy on the paint.

there is always the option to have a pro do it
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http://autopia.org/forum/

Try this link. Car detailing is all they talk about.
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http://www.autogeek.net/

Porter Cable 7424, Pinnacle Advanced Swirl Remover, followed by Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish, followed by a couple of coats of NXT Generation Tech Wax, spread over a couple of days, and top it off with Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Wax.
The paint will look like you can stick your arm into it..
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3M Makes a good Pink Fill and glaze.. Wipe it on let it dry and wipe it off.. Fills the swirls and puts a nice swirl free shine on the truck..

It is their professional stuff so you will need to go to a auto paint store for it..

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I use the Meguiars swirl and scratch remover. It does a good job.
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Thanks yall, checking out all the new info. When I figure out what Im gonna do and get it done Ill post up some pics and how I did it. Thanks, Dave.
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Go by a good detail shop and see how much they want to do it for you. Might not be too bad and then you will have glass like paint.
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Black truck here also...........Ive used the meguires swirl and scratch remover also, but I used a traditional rotary buffer (big wooly pad)......left muncho swirl marks. I think I should have used a orbital buffer--the kind that vibrates while spinning. I never finished the truck never the less !!! I cant stand too look it either after I wash it. one side has south texas pinstripe and the other is swirl-a rooooooooooo
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Well the one thing I have learned so far for the sites suggested is to clay bar the truck BEFORE tring to remove swirl marks. The reasoning behind it is to remove what the elements have left behind. Not doing so means you are just grinding the paint with all sorts of crud. Ill be making a trip to auto zone tonight for the clay bar kit.
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Hello, My buddy has an auto body shop and he swears by the 3m perfect it 3000 swirl remover followed by glaze and then by wax. The wooly pad is too abrasive you need to use a blue foam one that 3m sells. Saw a black car he detailed and it looked like a mirror. He uses a rotary makita. I will be getting one to use on my truck. Do a search on 3m products and I am sure you can find lots of places that sell it.Good luck,Steve.
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Originally Posted by steviebam
Hello, My buddy has an auto body shop and he swears by the 3m perfect it 3000 swirl remover followed by glaze and then by wax. The wooly pad is too abrasive you need to use a blue foam one that 3m sells. Saw a black car he detailed and it looked like a mirror. He uses a rotary makita. I will be getting one to use on my truck. Do a search on 3m products and I am sure you can find lots of places that sell it.Good luck,Steve.
Just be careful with a rotary, they can build up some serious heat and burn the paint, especially on the edges. You might be better going with the random orbital such as the Porter Cable 7424, virtually no chance of harming the paint. I use one with Menzerna Intensive Polish followed up with Final Polish II. My black truck is now almost 4 years old and still gets compliments on a regular basis. Rotary's will correct paint much quicker but can bite if you're not careful. Foam pads are the only way to fly. Get a set, they usually have 4 or 5 different colors in the set. The colors correspond to different density and more cutting power, usually the orange or yellow ones offer the most cutting power.

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