View Full Version : Surprise features
coalburner400
04-19-2008, 06:36 PM
I found these convenient surprises within the first week of ownership, but I'm sure some could overlook them. I'm coming from a 2nd gen, so I don't know if these features are exclusive to the 2007/2008 or if they have been available since 2003:
Fuel door has fingers to hold the cap so it does not dangle against the truck during fill-ups
Sun Visors can extend on a telescopic boom
Bench Seat has storage under console (knew about this one before purchase)
12v power inside the center console (knew about this one too)
I'm sure there are other cool but subtle features - feel free to post your findings... BTW - where's my coin holder [dummy]
Totallyrad
04-19-2008, 06:55 PM
BTW - where's my coin holder [dummy]In the business console and it's are also standard on Levi's and Wranglers, they're called pockets.[whistle][laugh]
Don't forget the garbage bag holder.
Smokem870
04-19-2008, 07:05 PM
Don't forget the garbage bag holder.
[duhhh] not sure I know of this one?
Totallyrad
04-19-2008, 07:16 PM
[duhhh] not sure I know of this one?It's the little hook on the passenger's side of the center console, lower part of the dash.
mikmaze
04-19-2008, 07:38 PM
aka dashboard retention clip, take that off and the whole dash will come off.
Eric T
04-19-2008, 11:20 PM
Humm, mine came with a coin holder
AggieJustin
04-19-2008, 11:27 PM
Fuel door has fingers to hold the cap so it does not dangle against the truck during fill-ups
My '01 has this...figured they all did.
snoyes
04-20-2008, 12:32 AM
Somebody check the price from Dodge on that coin holder. Heard it was stupid expensive from a kid that just went to the dealer to get one for his 07...
Hounddog
04-20-2008, 06:25 AM
My 98 and 03 have one.
ron b
04-20-2008, 11:48 AM
EGR helps warm the truck when cold but uses more fuel.
Exhaust brake helps slow the truck but uses more fuel.
DPF helps clean the air but uses more fuel.
Bigger engine more power but uses more fuel.
Wonder if the people who design these trucks also the same people own the oil companies.
Dodgezilla
04-20-2008, 12:06 PM
I kept the coin holder from my 07 when I saw the 08 did not have one. I was surprised that the little built in coin holders were eliminated for the center console too.
The trash bag hook is gone too so I just hang my little trash bag on the corner of the glove box then close the door. I have found that the donut bags from 7-11 make great trash bags because they are not too big....
I have a decked out truck with the sunroof and power rear slider. Opening both of them really works well to get air circulating in the cab. I really like that.
Dale_K
04-20-2008, 04:37 PM
How does the exhaust brake use more fuel?
awenthol
04-20-2008, 06:05 PM
Fuel door has fingers to hold the cap so it does not dangle against the truck during fill-ups
Useless....cap always falls off when filling :(
03qclb5spd
04-20-2008, 06:15 PM
How does the exhaust brake use more fuel?
I would guess that instead of taking the truck out of gear, or the converter unlocking and allowing the rpm's to drop to near idle speed they stay up....not sure perhaps someone else can chime in.
03huffer
04-20-2008, 06:34 PM
I would guess that instead of taking the truck out of gear, or the converter unlocking and allowing the rpm's to drop to near idle speed they stay up....not sure perhaps someone else can chime in.
Mine does not use more fuel when using the exhaust brake.[duhhh]
Dodgezilla
04-20-2008, 07:49 PM
Well, here is my theory....
These trucks get the best mileage while coasting downhill. I don't think anybody will argue that. With the exhaust brake on, it slows the truck down so that you will have to use the accelerator sooner at the bottom of every hill or dip in the road. Do this a couple hundred times during a tankfull of fuel and you WILL have used more fuel.
I love the EB and it is probably the coolest feature on the new trucks, but come on! Some of you guys act like it's a hard job changing brake pads!!! [dummy] I have stopped using my EB 100% of the time just in the interest of saving fuel....
coolbreeze
04-20-2008, 09:06 PM
A little thinking is involved with most technology [coffee]
BroncoHound
04-20-2008, 11:13 PM
the coin holder is like $60 from dodge. ridiculous. if you can, find one in a junk yard or con your dealer into giving you one off a truck at the lot that might have one.
the trash bag hook was removed when the dash was updated in 2006. 03-05s have them, 06-08s do not. i used to hook it over my shifter but like it better hooked around the 12v power outlet cap on the dash.
I don't know about the EB using more fuel. I used it the whole way to Kentucky and on those winding Kentucky roads. It's pretty sweet when you're hauling tail on those roads and when you let off the accelerator coming into a turn. There were times when I never even used my brakes.
Fuel wise I got great GM on the way there...even with the EB on. I even had a load of cinder blocks and firewood in the back. On the way back I was empty (no Turkey :( [laugh]) and seemed to get worse GM. I'll admit I was going faster on the way home, though.
These trucks really seem to like some weight on that back end.
I love this truck.
jumper
04-21-2008, 02:24 PM
EGR helps warm the truck when cold but uses more fuel.
Exhaust brake helps slow the truck but uses more fuel.
DPF helps clean the air but uses more fuel.
Bigger engine more power but uses more fuel.
Wonder if the people who design these trucks also the same people own the oil companies.
Accountants, attorneys, and environmentalists design vehicles with a little input from marketers, and from the occasional engineer with marketing skills. The smart designers also own oil company stock.[laugh]
Oilguy
04-21-2008, 02:46 PM
I hook the garbage bag on the cup holder since the 08 doesn't have that feature...
I like that the cruise goes up 1mph instead of 2.... I know it is stupid but I hate having to enter a code to go up 1 or 3 mph.
I don't like the DTE telling me "Fuel Low" after the (Ding) and fuel light comes on... The old one counted down to 0 >>> New one gets to about 30ish and then says fuel low....
I like that the cup holder is a little closer than the old one >>> BUT<<< I already had the shifter handle knock the drink out of my hand when lifting it up... ( yeah >> There is a learning curve when drinking and driving [coffee])
I like that the truck came already hooked up with Sirius Satalite radio... I wouldn't have ordered it that way and I probably will not re up it when the time comes to pay... but it is nice having it now.
I like the new design for the weather striping on the front of the door area that keeps the wind noise down.
Oilguy
AggieJustin
04-21-2008, 03:33 PM
I would guess that instead of taking the truck out of gear, or the converter unlocking and allowing the rpm's to drop to near idle speed they stay up....not sure perhaps someone else can chime in.
This may be totally off-base, but this is the way I've understood it.
What I heard (don't remember where) was that on the 2nd gens, if you were coasting and you engine speed was above idle, no fuel was being pushed to the injectors. Basically the engine was being driven by the wheels and wasn't doing anything but pumping air. Once your engine speed dropped back to idle, fueling restarted to keep the engine running.
So as long as the engine could be turned faster than idle speed by the rolling tires, you were using no fuel. And it made sense since there didn't seem to be a need to inject fuel for the power stroke since the piston was being moved by the force from the driveshaft.
If that is true, I would imagine the 3rd gens would be similar, unless they inject fuel for emissions reasons (like the 3rd event). But even then, it should be minor amounts since the fuel isn't powering the engine to turn the higher RPM.
bigblock2stroke
04-22-2008, 06:31 AM
This may be totally off-base, but this is the way I've understood it.
What I heard (don't remember where) was that on the 2nd gens, if you were coasting and you engine speed was above idle, no fuel was being pushed to the injectors. Basically the engine was being driven by the wheels and wasn't doing anything but pumping air. Once your engine speed dropped back to idle, fueling restarted to keep the engine running.
So as long as the engine could be turned faster than idle speed by the rolling tires, you were using no fuel. And it made sense since there didn't seem to be a need to inject fuel for the power stroke since the piston was being moved by the force from the driveshaft.
If that is true, I would imagine the 3rd gens would be similar, unless they inject fuel for emissions reasons (like the 3rd event). But even then, it should be minor amounts since the fuel isn't powering the engine to turn the higher RPM.
This is true, provided you do not have your foot on the clutch. You referenced "coasting", which I consider putting trans in nuetral on a manual. with manual trans, you'll get better fuel economy by leaving it in gear when you are "coasting" towards a stop (motoring), rather than putting it in neutral (idle). Not much of a concern with an auto, but something I noticed with my manual.
I don't think you are off base at all. This information can save people money.
TonyUFN
08-03-2008, 09:28 AM
You're forgetting that most on the highway are using cruise and still have the EB on... so when you are "coasting" down that small hill, the EB is keeping you at your cruise controls set max speed. with the EB off, you are truly coasting downhill. That's where "using fuel" comes from and the mileage is suffering with the EB on. When OTR I turn mine off and have noticed a difference. Just keep an eye out for that bear sitting in the weeds since he'll notice you going faster downhill too. :D
Not sure if its a "surprise" feature or not, but I didn't notice it on my 2005... tap the turn signal for a second in either direction and you get a 3-4 flash "lane change" turn signal without having to hold it there or fully engage the turn signal.
JDiepstra
08-03-2008, 12:58 PM
This is true, provided you do not have your foot on the clutch. You referenced "coasting", which I consider putting trans in nuetral on a manual. with manual trans, you'll get better fuel economy by leaving it in gear when you are "coasting" towards a stop (motoring), rather than putting it in neutral (idle). Not much of a concern with an auto, but something I noticed with my manual.
I don't think you are off base at all. This information can save people money.
When coasting my Edge Juice with Att tells me I use 0% fuel as long as the TC is locked up. As soon as the speed falls to 40 and the TC unlocks, the fuel usage goes up to about 4-5%. So on an auto, you get better mpg's coasting with the TC locked up than you would shifting into neutral.
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