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93Fury
12-08-2008, 01:46 PM
This is the second 1st gen I've owned and it's nothing like the first.
I have been plugging my truck in since overnight temps have been seeing in the single digits at my house. Now, I have knocked the timing back down to stock, maybe just above, and turned the pump down a bit. But since the cold weather, this truck smokes like bon fire. Not black smoke either. On start up, it takes several cranks to get it fired and usually have to hold the accelerator pedal down a bit. It chugs and chugs until it seems like the other cylinders fire. Once it stays running for a minute or so it will idle fine but still smoke horribly until it gets to operating temp.
My old truck didn't, I rarely had to plug it in and it never acted like this one. It would blow a slight puff of blueish-white smoke and that was it. Is there something wrong? The injectors for some reason won't stay sealed anymore, could this be the problem?
ofcmarc
12-08-2008, 01:51 PM
I'd be looking for a air leak in the fuel system. Even at single didget temps it should fire on the 1st or 2nd cyl to hit compression. smoke on the otherhand is gonna happen in the cold. You should see mine light off at -40*. :o
archer39
12-08-2008, 02:14 PM
I'd be looking for a air leak in the fuel system. Even at single didget temps it should fire on the 1st or 2nd cyl to hit compression. smoke on the otherhand is gonna happen in the cold. You should see mine light off at -40*. :o
i would like too, maybe you should make a video for us to see. [coffee]
ofcmarc
12-08-2008, 02:28 PM
i would like too, maybe you should make a video for us to see. [coffee]
I'll see what I can do.
It ain't hit -40* yet this year and I don't have a dig Video camera-yet.... But I'll see what I can do.
93Fury
12-08-2008, 03:17 PM
It's not just in the very that it's smoking. Even when I get out of work at 40* or so it does it, along with the slightly hard start. Like I said the only leak that I have found are the piece of crap POD's.
roxxx
12-08-2008, 03:29 PM
make sure your grid heater is working
93Fury
12-08-2008, 03:48 PM
I can hear the relay click when the WTS light goes out.
oldcool90
12-08-2008, 03:55 PM
Crank you timing back up,make shure your ksb is working too.
ofcmarc
12-08-2008, 04:31 PM
It's not just in the very that it's smoking. Even when I get out of work at 40* or so it does it, along with the slightly hard start. Like I said the only leak that I have found are the piece of crap POD's.
Check the fuel heater o-ring. They like to leak a bit. Also pressurize the tank a bit (about 5psi) and look at the fuel lines from the tank to LP.
pwrtripls1
12-08-2008, 04:37 PM
My 89' did the same thing in the cold up in Maine. It ended up being a tiny hole in the fuel line just before the lift pump. Once I stopped it from sucking air it fired right up.
93Fury
12-08-2008, 05:06 PM
I should have said before, I already put pressure to the tank. No leaks to the LP. I couldn't see anywhere around the fuel heater leaking. And the KSB works, I had it hot wired before I did the timing. Unless it could have gone bad in the time since then. Thanks for the pointers though.
ofcmarc
12-08-2008, 05:22 PM
I should have said before, I already put pressure to the tank. No leaks to the LP. I couldn't see anywhere around the fuel heater leaking. And the KSB works, I had it hot wired before I did the timing. Unless it could have gone bad in the time since then. Thanks for the pointers though.
Like I said the only leak that I have found are the piece of crap POD's.
This may be your problem then......:(Leaking down on the high pressure side or a bad spray pattern.
93Fury
12-08-2008, 06:00 PM
Thanks man, I guess the only thing to try is new injectors.
wannadiesel
12-08-2008, 06:07 PM
Now, I have knocked the timing back down to stock, maybe just above...
The injectors for some reason won't stay sealed anymore, could this be the problem?Between the two of those there is plenty of white smoke potential. Where are the injectors leaking?
93Fury
12-08-2008, 09:49 PM
They won't seal into the head. I swapped them out of my parts truck awhile back, they were torqued to 44lb.ft. (I think that's what I remembered reading a Cummins manual somewhere along the line) when I put them in. They were fine for a 4K miles and in the past 2K I've tightened them twice and they are leaking again. They never leaked on the other engine.
I backed the timing down because it sounded rather "clattery".
ofcmarc
12-08-2008, 09:52 PM
Pull the injectors, Clean the bores well and perhaps some new sealing washers.
Try parking facing down hill at a pretty good angle over night. My truck did this with a bad lift pump and was draining back to the tank when facing up hill. Also remove the return bango bolt and check the screen. If there is metal filings you could be in for a cheap x-mas (IP).
93Fury
12-09-2008, 07:55 AM
Truck has new LP, and the screen is clean.
powerrammaster
12-10-2008, 07:02 AM
My vote is the KSB is not working. I never changed my timing and I think it is stock, and like you at 40*F she will kill all of 2009's mosquito larvae in the area. My fuel screw isn't in much and even bfore pump mods she was quite smoky. I am just too busy (playing with other trucks)to make the simple KSB repair. Grids work good, if I plug in it is worse cuz the grids don't come on
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