Should I buy the valve body now?
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Should I buy the valve body now?
So here's the situation. I'm approaching 30,000 miles so I'm going to service the tranny in my truck in the next couple weeks. The tranny is starting to show signs of slipping when I get on it with my power adders turned up, which means a torque converter, valve body, and other rebuild parts will be needed in the future. Now there is no money in the pocketbook for a rebuild now, but I do have enough to purchase and install a valve body only at this time. On to the question: If I replace the valve body now, can it extend the life of my tranny? Could it shorten the life of my tranny? Should I wait until the whole thing goes and replace everything at the same time? Doing everything now just ain't gonna happen. So what do you guys think?
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a valve body should help, but if its going out already, your just living on borrowed time. if your TC blows up or you blow the whole tranny, that VB will have all kinds of metal shavings in there and you will have to break the whole thing down. If you have warranty, ide just blow up the stocker, replace it and repeat until you have $ for a tranny
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a valve body will help. That's the only thing I've done so far and it made a big difference with mine. As long as your fluid isn't burnt and your tranny is in good shape I would do the valve body and save up to do the rest later.
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is it the trans slipping or the tc?
i just spoke to dave goerend today about mine and he informed me that the 48re in my 06' is actually pretty strong from the factory w/ already having hd bands and clutches in it. he told me the tc was the weakest link and they come loose from the factory and are prone to slipping. i was going to purchase a complete trans from him but after telling him my goals of 600hp and 12 sec. et's he suggested only a tc, vb, fp, and a couple other small things like shift enhancer and lever. of course he said i would want a billet imput for 4x4 launches, but he said w/ only 20k miles on my trans it would be pointless for me to buy a full trans from him.
maybee a tc and vb are all you need?
i just spoke to dave goerend today about mine and he informed me that the 48re in my 06' is actually pretty strong from the factory w/ already having hd bands and clutches in it. he told me the tc was the weakest link and they come loose from the factory and are prone to slipping. i was going to purchase a complete trans from him but after telling him my goals of 600hp and 12 sec. et's he suggested only a tc, vb, fp, and a couple other small things like shift enhancer and lever. of course he said i would want a billet imput for 4x4 launches, but he said w/ only 20k miles on my trans it would be pointless for me to buy a full trans from him.
maybee a tc and vb are all you need?
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is it the trans slipping or the tc?
i just spoke to dave goerend today about mine and he informed me that the 48re in my 06' is actually pretty strong from the factory w/ already having hd bands and clutches in it. he told me the tc was the weakest link and they come loose from the factory and are prone to slipping. i was going to purchase a complete trans from him but after telling him my goals of 600hp and 12 sec. et's he suggested only a tc, vb, fp, and a couple other small things like shift enhancer and lever. of course he said i would want a billet imput for 4x4 launches, but he said w/ only 20k miles on my trans it would be pointless for me to buy a full trans from him.
maybee a tc and vb are all you need?
i just spoke to dave goerend today about mine and he informed me that the 48re in my 06' is actually pretty strong from the factory w/ already having hd bands and clutches in it. he told me the tc was the weakest link and they come loose from the factory and are prone to slipping. i was going to purchase a complete trans from him but after telling him my goals of 600hp and 12 sec. et's he suggested only a tc, vb, fp, and a couple other small things like shift enhancer and lever. of course he said i would want a billet imput for 4x4 launches, but he said w/ only 20k miles on my trans it would be pointless for me to buy a full trans from him.
maybee a tc and vb are all you need?
I don't know what's slipping, but I do know it did it while the torque converter was locked (not sure if it was locked in 3rd or 4th when it did it). It was actually a little bit of a shudder, which is what made me think torque converter.
Yeah, a converter and valve body with the other incidental parts is all I'm going to need (no billet shafts for me) unless I need to replace damaged or worn parts. Just can't afford everything now, but figured while I have the pan off it would be a convenient time to do the valve body.
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sounds like your tc slipping to me. that is the shudder you feel when the tc is locked.
give dave goerend a call, im sure he could help 563 778 2719
you could also try hts 877 630 9122 but no one answered when i called them. could have been too early i guess.
give dave goerend a call, im sure he could help 563 778 2719
you could also try hts 877 630 9122 but no one answered when i called them. could have been too early i guess.
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I would get the tc, you can always increase the line pressure in the valve body yourself. Increasing the line pressure will help ensure your trans dosen't slip. Its a lot cheaper than buying a VB!
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I'd love to get the torque converter, but the price tag dictates otherwise. Sounds like it may be better just to do the service now, add a tranny pan with a drain plug (even the "sealed" tranny on my wifes 4Runner has a drain plug!) and just wait until the factory stuff gives up the ghost to replace it.
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I'd love to get the torque converter, but the price tag dictates otherwise. Sounds like it may be better just to do the service now, add a tranny pan with a drain plug (even the "sealed" tranny on my wifes 4Runner has a drain plug!) and just wait until the factory stuff gives up the ghost to replace it.
If you can't swing that, I personally wouldn't do anything until it quits you all together. If you put a VB on now, you will just be running crap through it as your TC wears more and more. So either get with John and do both, or plan on down the road to have the whole thing gone through. Once it quits, all the tranny internals will need cleaned and inspected.
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There are a lot of good single disk TC's out there that are capable of holding good power without having to spend over $700. You could also install a $75 Transgo shift kit and you'd be set, even on tight budget.
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Yes, but think about what that means. You are running a damaged TC in your truck. Sure, maybe it's holding now, but what are the long term effects of that?
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Also if you decide to do the vb you need to also decide what convertor you will use later (single disc,triple disc) because it will make a difference on how it is set up.
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I have an ITW single disk and a trans go kit in my 05. It has held great for over a year and 70,000 miles of smarty sw9 and sled pulling and boosted lanches. Not that I spend all my time on 9 but i do run it quite a bit. I think you could get by with a good single disk for around $800.