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TexasCTD
08-07-2008, 09:54 PM
This was sent to me via email last year. He has some awesome ideas, imo!! He has real world solutions to real world problems and not a bunch of lip service.:cool:


Maricopa County was spending approximately $18 million dollars a
> >>year on stray animals, like cats and dogs. Sheriff Joe offered to take
> >>the department over, and the County Supervisors said okay.
> >>
> >>
> >>The animal shelters are now all staffed and operated by prisoners. They
> >>feed and care for the strays. Every animal in his care is taken out and
> >>walked twice daily. He now has prisoners who are experts in animal
> >>nutrition and behavior. They give great classes for anyone who'd like to
> >>adopt an animal. He has literally taken stray dogs off the street,
> >>given them to the care of prisoners, and had them place in dog shows.
> >>
> >>
> >>The best part? His budget for the entire department is now under $3
> >>million. Teresa and I adopted a Weimaraner from a Maricopa County
> >>shelter two years ago. He was neutered, and current on all shots, in
> >>great health, and even had a microchip inserted the day we got him.
> >>Cost us $78. The prisoners get the benefit of about $0.28 an hour for
> >>working, but most would work for free, just to be out of their cells for
> >>the day. Most of his budget is for utilities, building maintenance, etc.
> >>He pays the prisoners out of the fees collected for adopted animals.
> >>
> >>
> >>I have long wondered when the rest of the country would take a look at
> >>the way he runs the jail system, and copy some of his ideas. He has a
> >>huge farm, donated to the county years ago, where inmates can work, and
> >>they grow most of their own fresh vegetables and food, doing all the
> >>work and harvesting by hand. He has a pretty good sized hog farm, which
> >>provides meat, and fertilizer. It fertilizes the Christmas tree nursery,
> >>where prisoners work, and you can buy a living Christmas tree for $6 -
> >>$8 for the Holidays, and plant it later. We have six trees in our yard
> >>from the Prison.
> >>
> >>
> >>Yup, he was reelected last year with 83% of the vote. Now he's in
> >>trouble with the ACLU again. He painted all his buses and vehicles with
> >>a mural, that has a special hotline phone number painted on it, where
> >>you can call and report suspected illegal aliens. Immigrations and
> >>Customs Enforcement wasn't doing enough in his eyes, so he had 40
> >>deputies trained specifically for enforcing immigration laws, started up
> >>his hotline, and bought 4 new buses just for hauling folks back to the
> >>border. He's kind of a 'Git-R Dun' kind of Sheriff.
> >>
> >>
> >>TO THOSE OF YOU NOT FAMILIAR WITH JOE ARPAIO
> >>HE IS THE MARICOPA ARIZONA COUNTY SHERIFF
> >>AND HE KEEPS GETTING ELECTED OVER AND OVER THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS
> >>WHY:
> >>
> >>
> >>Sheriff Joe Arpaio (In Arizona) who created the 'Tent City Jail': He
> >>has jail meals down to 40 cents a serving and charges the inmates for
> >>them.
> >>
> >>
> >>He stopped smoking and porno magazines in the jails. Took away their
> >>weights , and cut off all but 'G' movies.
> >>
> >>
> >>He started chain gangs so the inmates could do free work on county and
> >>city projects.
> >>
> >>
> >>Then He Started Chain Gangs For Women So He Wouldn't Get Sued For
> >>Discrimination.
> >>
> >>
> >>He took away cable TV Until he found out there was A Federal Court
> >>Order that Required Cable TV For Jails So He Hooked Up The Cable TV
> >>Again Only Let In The Disney Channel And The Weather Channel.
> >>
> >>
> >>When asked why the weather channel He Replied, So They Will Know How
> >>Hot It's Gonna Be While They Are Working on My Chain Gangs.
> >>
> >>
> >>He Cut Off Coffee Since It Has Zero Nutritional Value.
> >>
> >>
> >>When the inmates complained, he told them, 'This Isn't The
> >>Ritz/Carlton.....If You Don't Like It, Don't Come Back.'
> >>
> >>
> >>He bought Newt Gingrich's lecture series on videotape that he pipes
> >>into the jails.
> >>
> >>
> >>When asked by a reporter if he had any lecture series by a Democrat, he
> >>replied that a democratic lecture series might explain why a lot of the
> >>inmates were in his jails in the first place.
> >>
> >>
> >>More On The Arizona Sheriff:
> >>
> >>
> >>With Temperatures Being Even Hotter Than Usual In Phoenix (116 Degrees
> >>Just Set A New Record), the Associated Press Reports: About 2,000
> >>Inmates Living In A Barbed-Wire-Surrounded Tent Encampment At The
> >>Maricopa County Jail Have Been Given Permission To Strip Down To Their
> >>Government-Issued Pink Boxer Shorts.
> >>
> >>
> >>On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on
> >>their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 Degrees
> >>Inside The Week Before.
> >>
> >>
> >>Many Were Also Swathed In Wet, Pink Towels As Sweat Collected On Their
> >>Chests And Dripped Down To Their PINK SOCKS.
> >>
> >>
> >>'It Feels Like We Are In A Furnace,' Said James Zanzot, An Inmate Who
> >>Has Lived In The TENTS for 1 year. 'It's Inhumane.'
> >>
> >>
> >>Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long
> >>ago started making his prisoners wear pink, and eat bologna sandwiches,
> >>is not one bit sympathetic. He said Wednesday that he told all of the
> >>inmates: 'It's 120 Degrees In Iraq And Our Soldiers Are Living In Tents
> >>Too, And They Have To Wear Full Battle Gear, But They Didn't Commit Any
> >>Crimes, So Shut Your Mouths!' Way To Go, Sheriff!
> >>
> >>
> >>Maybe if all prisons were like this one there would be a lot less crime
> >>and/or repeat offenders. Criminals should be punished for their crimes -
> >>not live in luxury until it's time for their parole, only to go out and
> >>commit another crime so they can get back in to live on taxpayers money
> >>and enjoy things taxpayers can't afford to have for themselves.
> >>
> >>
> >>> >>
> >>
> >>Sheriff Joe was just reelected Sheriff in Maricopa County, Arizona
> >>
> >>

chipmonk
08-09-2008, 01:21 AM
'sheriff Joe' is a piece of work all right. maybe you'd like to ask him where a county sheriff winds up with around $1 million to invest in high end commercial property, then tries to keep these investments secret 'for his own protection'. or why he spent $157,000 of taxpayer money sending Maricopa County SO personnel to a vacation area of Honduras to 'train LEO's', where Joe and Chief Deputy David Hendershott just happen to be linked to a Honduran Bay Islands real estate investment scheme. the Arizona Auditor General has decided to audit sheriff Joe's office.
as for his jail saving taxpayer money, taxpayers have spent well over $40 million to settle lawsuits against sheriff Joe and his jail, the deductible for the county's insurance policy has gone from $1 million to $5 million, premiums have quadrupled, and none of this money even comes out of sheriff Joe's $295 million budget (tens of millions more than most similar sized counties). when his budget was recently cut by $5 million, he had the kiwis to solicit public donations to his dept.
did you hear how his elite public decency undercover force got caught having sex with the prostitutes they were supposed to be busting (sheriff Joe claimed these low life hookers were lying, but one seemed to have a cell phone with some revealing pictures of his elite force 'at work')? or how his good buddy Mike Tyson got the royal treatment (nice accomadations- no tent city for his buddy Iron Mike) and a quick release when he was arrested there for DUI (alcohol and cocaine) and possession?
care to look at how Phoenix and Maricopa county rate for serious crime in the U.S.? it ain't near the bottom, so for all his high profile, self serving, big budget stunts, the skells don't seem to be afraid to commit crimes in his county.
don't get me wrong, i don't dislike him 'cause he doesn't let the bad guys have cable and makes them wear pink underwear [laugh], i think he's corrupt and drains tax money for self serving worthless crap that is not having an affect on lowering crime in the area. BTW, for all these 'amazing' things he's done, interesting that his career has gone no further than sheriff of Maricopa County- he's a lot like the Ford PSD, good commercial and that's about it. [rant]

capt.Ron
08-09-2008, 09:40 AM
'sheriff Joe' is a piece of work all right. maybe you'd like to ask him where a county sheriff winds up with around $1 million to invest in high end commercial property, then tries to keep these investments secret 'for his own protection'. or why he spent $157,000 of taxpayer money sending Maricopa County SO personnel to a vacation area of Honduras to 'train LEO's', where Joe and Chief Deputy David Hendershott just happen to be linked to a Honduran Bay Islands real estate investment scheme. the Arizona Auditor General has decided to audit sheriff Joe's office.
Not saying that it's not true but I'm a news hound and this is the first time I've ever heard these assertions.
as for his jail saving taxpayer money, taxpayers have spent well over $40 million to settle lawsuits against sheriff Joe and his jail, the deductible for the county's insurance policy has gone from $1 million to $5 million, premiums have quadrupled,
I would be more apt to blame those numbers on the scumbag ACLU lawyers bringing these lawsuits to comfort criminals during incarceration.
and none of this money even comes out of sheriff Joe's $295 million budget.
Nor should it. The budget is for operations not litigation.
when his budget was recently cut by $5 million, he had the kiwis to solicit public donations to his dept.
Good for him...Let the folks who appreciate his accomplishments support it.

did you hear how his elite public decency undercover force got caught having sex with the prostitutes they were supposed to be busting (sheriff Joe claimed these low life hookers were lying, but one seemed to have a cell phone with some revealing pictures of his elite force 'at work')? or how his good buddy Mike Tyson got the royal treatment (nice accomadations- no tent city for his buddy Iron Mike) and a quick release when he was arrested there for DUI (alcohol and cocaine) and possession?
Again, this may all be true but your post is the only time I've seen such assertions.

XLR8R
08-09-2008, 12:41 PM
I agree with Robert that Sheriff Arpaio has done an excellent job in his county; really - a model that all of our elected officials should follow. I'm not an acquaintance, but I've known of his actions in Maricopa for several years and have approved of everything I've known him to do.

He truly is the "Git-R-Done" type of leader that anyone in a position of authority would be served well to emulate.

Like Capt. Ron, this is the first I've ever heard of any nefarious actions or policies on Joe's part... I have no doubt that if there were credible weight to the accusations, the liberal MSM would've ran the story in 40 point headlines with slavering jaws! It isn't surprising that the county has had to defend innumerable lawsuits brought by the ALCU and others of their ilk... and it's no secret that his logical brand of conservative leadership engenders hordes of emotionally distraught liberals to clamor for his removal by any means available.

Sheriff Joe should experience the consequences of his actions (which he has to date) whether they be good or bad... and if there have been criminal activities, there's a precept of logic in modern democratic society that denies the existence of "a secret to big to keep". ;)

chipmonk
08-09-2008, 03:39 PM
you're more than welcome to look up the myriad of sheriff Joe financial corruption stories that are out there.
a good friend's mom has lived in Maricopa County since before anyone ever heard of Joe Arpaio, and she has sent me numerous stories of the financial corruption and ludicrous spending by his dept., that has now resulted in a large scale state audit and investigation of his dept. although she is a self titled 'intelligient republican', she says that Joe gets his support through scare tactics- if i'm not your sheriff, you'll get some ACLU loving, soft-on-crime left wing liberal democrat who'll let crime run rampant. amazing that he can get away with scare tactics like that, being that with him as sheriff, Phoenix and Maricopa County have among the highest crime rates in the country even though Joe's budget is tens of millions more than similar sized counties with much lower crime rates, and he continually boasts about the cost saving measures of his tent jails.
as for those who say that he must be doing a great job because he gets re-elected, may i remind you that Marion Barry was overwhelmingly re-elected mayor of Washington D.C. after the whole country saw video of him getting arrested smoking crack with a prostitute, in an undercover police sting.
if 'corrupt Joe' is the answer, please show me the great results he's brought to Maricopa County, and since you judge your politicians by their rhetoric, commercials, self serving speeches, and have no problem overlooking their out of control spending and lack of results, i'm sure you'll be pulling the lever for Obama later this year.

XLR8R
08-09-2008, 05:08 PM
Hillary might take out Osama at the convention... [laugh]

chipmonk
08-09-2008, 05:18 PM
Hillary might take out Osama at the convention... [laugh]

like out to dinner, or the BIG out? :o

XLR8R
08-09-2008, 05:36 PM
Who cares? [yuk]

- as long as it's anywhere but the White House... never thought I'd be able to consider Her Thighness as the lesser of two evils! [laugh]





You have to admit, She & He are like matter & antimatter... who will reach the mountain top (dare I say precipice? :o) first: the NOW FemiNazis who form the Gender War's tip of the spear, or the victimized ethnic vigilantes who use their religion to strive for yet another hollow victory in endless battles of the already-won Racial War. [dummy]

I'm looking forward to the fireworks... the enemy of my enemy is my friend de jour. :)

XLR8R
08-09-2008, 05:39 PM
like out to dinner, or the BIG out? :o

[laugh] Confucious say:

[director]Don't put nuthin' past them dang Clintonoids!":o


Seriously though, I wish we could get Vince Foster (of Ft. Marcy Park fame) to answer your question....

chipmonk
08-09-2008, 05:46 PM
[laugh]


Seriously though, I wish we could get Vince Foster (of Ft. Marcy Park fame) to answer your question....

very good Mike- that could be the start of a great new thread entitled 'mysterious deaths of people who could have sunk the Clinton Empire'. [laugh]

XLR8R
08-09-2008, 05:59 PM
Yes, but it could never last... (sigh)


You know Jack terminates threads when they reach a certain length due to excessive load on the server! [coffee]

chipmonk
08-10-2008, 02:57 PM
here is a piece from a news story about the skyrocketing crime rates in Maricopa County:



"The mayor (Phoenix mayor Phil Gordon) said he based his statement about crime rates on FBI statistics released every year in a report titled, "Crime in the United States." Between 2006 and 2007, the sheriff's office reported steep increases in homicide, robbery and aggravated assault, in particular; rape figures show a 57 percent jump in that period."



of course sheriff Joe claims those statistics are wrong, and his statistics that show crime dropping in his county are correct. the Mayor said that Joe Arpaio is the only one with figures claiming a reduction in crime, as the city, state, and the FBI all show steep increases in crime (especially serious/violent crime), and there's no way to verify sheriff Joe's claims as he has kept the county from verifying or auditing the statistics that he keeps for his dept.



from another newspaper article reporting on sheriff Joe's dept:



Official secrets
MCSO stymies requests for information — even from regulators
July 15, 2008 - 9:32AM
Ryan Gabrielson
Tribune
The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office tries to stifle almost anyone checking on its operations.

It keeps secret the most basic data about its police work that other departments publish every year. It refuses to release public records - or tries to remove information from those records - without any legal right to do so.

And even agencies that oversee Sheriff Joe Arpaio's office cannot pry free documents that MCSO wants to keep from the public.

In 2006, the Maricopa County internal audit department tried to do a routine check of statistics the sheriff's office had provided on clearance rates - the number of cases MCSO finishes or "clears" each year.

The sheriff's office had reported that it cleared 57 percent of its criminal investigations during the 2005-2006 fiscal year, finance records show, up three percentage points from the previous year.

When a county auditor asked MCSO for records showing how it calculated that figure, sheriff's officials refused to turn them over.

"We were not allowed access to supporting documentation," the auditor's report says.

As a result, it is impossible to know how sheriff's detectives are handling the roughly 10,000 criminal investigations they open each year. From the few crime statistics MCSO occasionally releases, the number of violent crimes in the small towns and unincorporated areas appears to be rising sharply - particularly homicide.

The county's internal audit department works for the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors. The supervisors set policy for most county departments, except those headed by elected officials, like the sheriff's office.

But the supervisors decide how much taxpayer funding MCSO receives each year and are supposed to monitor how the office operates. The supervisors received the audit report, but none worked to pry loose the criminal investigations files.

Loretta Barkell, MCSO business services chief, worked with the county auditor on the investigations review and said that it was Chief Deputy David Hendershott who chose not to cooperate.

Hendershott is the agency's second-highest-ranking official, below only Arpaio. Hendershott did not return repeated calls for comment and did not attend the Tribune's interviews with MCSO officials, despite the newspaper's specific requests to speak with him.

Clearance rates, which reflect the number of criminal investigations law enforcement agencies finish, are among the most basic of police statistics, and virtually every department in the United States tracks them. Detectives generally clear cases by making arrests, finding a case has no merit or closing it because they lack leads or victims who are willing to prosecute.

But sheriff's officials admit they don't know exactly how many criminal investigations detectives open or close.

Or the precise number of cases that end with an arrest. Or whether there are cases that detectives fail to investigate.

MCSO has not connected all of its law enforcement divisions to its computer records-keeping system, agency officials say.

As a result, a number of cases never get counted; of course, it's unknown how many.

Costly to hide information

The sheriff's office frequently refuses to comply with public records requests and the taxpayers have sometimes paid the price for that.

Last year, the West Valley View successfully sued the sheriff's office for withholding press releases, costing county taxpayers $38,000 to pay the newspaper's legal fees. The sheriff's office lost another lawsuit in February after it took six months to provide records to the Tucson Citizen.

In refusing to provide the auditor with the criminal investigations documentation, sheriff's officials told the auditor that their computer system for tracking criminal cases wasn't reliable, so they would not release information from it, said Richard Chard, the county's deputy audit director.

Ultimately, Chard said, there was little recourse for the county audit department if the sheriff's office refused to cooperate. The auditor would have had to read through thousands of pages of investigative files to sort out MCSO's flawed system.

"We could basically go through all kinds of gymnastics, if you will, to try to get at this information. But the bottom line was, either way we weren't going to certify their numbers," Chard said.

Statistics are important

Crime statistics are notoriously misleading. Numbers fluctuate up and down depending on how each police department defines or targets particular crimes.

If drug arrests are on the rise, is there more drug use on the city's streets? Or are police pursuing dealers more aggressively?

But MCSO doesn't always provide statistics to question.

Every year, the FBI compiles and releases crime data it collects from police departments across the country, including MCSO.

But in 2005, MCSO did not provide any information about the number of murders, rapes, robberies, assaults or any other crime the agency handled.

Sheriff's officials said problems with their records-keeping system prevented them from releasing crime figures that year.

In 2004, MCSO reported 12 homicides. Two years later, when the sheriff's office next provided its data, there were 25. The number of aggravated assaults showed a similar climb; rapes and robberies increased as well, though not as steeply.

These numbers are almost certainly too low because MCSO does not enter every incident into its computer system. The sheriff's office reports figures to the county's Management and Budget Office on how well it performs - including its percentage of investigations cleared - each year with a major qualification.

"Due to a lack of administrative staff, many areas of the office do not have complete ... data. Therefore, the data for the Criminal Investigations Bureau is not considered accurate," the reports say year after year.

Key findings revisited:

• Deputies are failing to meet the county’s standard for response times on life-threatening emergencies. In 2006 and 2007, patrol cars arrived late two-thirds of the time on more than 6,000 of the most serious calls for service.

• MCSO’s arrest rate has plunged the past two years even as the number of criminal investigations has soared.

• Rampant overtime spending on immigration operations drove the agency into financial crisis and forced it to close facilities across the county. Although MCSO officials have said state and federal grants covered all of the expense, illegal immigration arrests actually are costing county taxpayers millions of dollars.


hey maybe i was wrong- with all the corruption Joe's got going on around his office, Washington D.C. might be the perfect place for him.