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Old 06-28-2010, 08:23 AM
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Schwitzer S2B

I have a Schwitzer S2B off of a John Deere 850B. Does anyone know if the flange will bolt up to the Cummins or will I need an adapter? I don't know if I'll be getting any gain. I'm just looking to use this because the Holset has about 3/8" fore and aft play. I think its shot. This is on a 94 2wd, 5spd 2500 with 397,000 miles. I picked up the Schwitzer at a sale for $40 and it has minimal play.
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Originally Posted by Silver Ram
I have a Schwitzer S2B off of a John Deere 850B. Does anyone know if the flange will bolt up to the Cummins or will I need an adapter? I don't know if I'll be getting any gain. I'm just looking to use this because the Holset has about 3/8" fore and aft play. I think its shot. This is on a 94 2wd, 5spd 2500 with 397,000 miles. I picked up the Schwitzer at a sale for $40 and it has minimal play.
The flange may or may not bolt up. The 850 used a 466 cubic inch deere engine, depending on the year and horsepower rating the exhaust housing might have a T-3 or T-4 flange on it. What kind of exhaust outlet does it have? Alot of Deeres used a donut between the turbine outlet and the exhaust elbow, so there is no flange to clamp a pipe to. The compressors are usually smaller too.

3/8" end play? That .375", which is .370" too much. Its beyond shot.
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It's got the divider on the flange so I think it's a T-4 or a T-6.
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Originally Posted by Silver Ram
It's got the divider on the flange so I think it's a T-4 or a T-6.
T-3 can have a divider too. T-3 and T-4 share one dimension on the flange, T-4 is larger on the narrow dimension, making it almost square.

No way its a T-6 they are big, its either T-3 or T-4.
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I'll have to get a tape on it when I get home. I'd like to know it's going to fit before I pull the hx35 off.
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I'll have to get a tape on it when I get home. I'd like to know it's going to fit before I pull the hx35 off.
Fit is one thing, how are you going to hook up your exhaust, the oil drain and supply, I know most of those deere turbo's use a 2 bolt flange and gasket for the supply. How are you going to hook up the compressor outlet to the intercooler?
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Yup, I'll have to get a tape on those too. I just thought they'd be the same. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Oh yeh those are all different. Going to need some adapters or creative fab work.
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The exhaust outlets on the ones I've seen are not like an HX35 and the housings are huge...will probably have quite a bit of lag. The S2B's are old design too.
You might check with the local turbo shops about a new Holset HX35 cartridge...wheel/bearing/shaft assemblies. Install it on your existing exhaust and compressor housings, connect the oil drain, pump the top oil hole a few seconds with your pump oilcan, install your oil feed line and test ride. That's how I handled my hybrid.
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Yeh the exhaust housing is pretty big. I have an Air Research T04 and its about the same deal, alot of modification to fit. I have an H1C on my 4 BT I could pull off and put on for the time being. Maybe I should go the same route you went. Thing is I don't know of any turbo shops here in central Illinois (Decatur/Springfield area).
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Found some distributors in Illinois,

http://www.holset.co.uk/mainsite/fil...istributor.php
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Thanks man! I'm probably going to rebuild this one. I found this link and it looks pretty straight forward. The only thing is I don't see any torque spec or whether or not you need to preload? I suppose it will be in the rebuild kit. I've seen those on Fleabay for around $49.

http://www.cumminsforum.com/forum/94...uild-pics.html
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Select HX30-32-35-40 then download..
http://www.holset.co.uk/mainsite/fil...%20manuals.php



Now save this to a file
http://www.holset.co.uk/partsservice...Data_Sheet.pdf

You may have to allow pop-ups for these to open...I did.

I printed all that up and made one cool manual.
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Hey that's some good info there. I can use that. Thanks.
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I'm back to trying to make the S2B work on my truck. I need the horn that goes from the compressor housing to the intercooler boot. Anyone know where I can find this adapter?


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