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Glasshog
04-17-2009, 09:44 AM
Thinking about doing some mods to my truck and have been tossing around the Smarty S67, Edge Insight, or Bullydog Watchdog, and a cold air intake. The S&B seems like a good unit. Read some of their testimonials from folks on their website. People seem to like it, except maybe more turbo noise. I kinda like the quiet of the truck. A little would be ok, but not noisy. No thanks.
Any people got one on their 6.7's, and if do, what do you think?

wk4alvn
04-18-2009, 09:25 AM
Just bought the S&B and love it. Wish it had more turbo noise. I have to turn down the radio to really hear it.

Termite 06
04-18-2009, 10:02 AM
We just put one on an 03 5.9L and it is a very nice kit. It was extremely simple to install and fits like a glove. As far as turbo noise goes, I was actually very disappointed in the lack of turbo noise. It makes my AEM on my 06 sound obnoxiously loud. After seeing the S&B on the 03, we decided to go with that for my father's 08.

Glasshog
04-19-2009, 03:33 PM
Are you seeing any improvements in power and fuel economy? I'm hoping to be able to compliment the Smarty w/ a new filter.
WK4ALVN, what rig did you put it on?

wk4alvn
04-19-2009, 05:47 PM
I installed all mods in my sig at the same time. Runs much better! I have more torque than stock TQ can take. 1-3 gear it holds 3kRPM's in 4th it locks the TQ, drops to 2k RPM's and REALLY starts pulling!

hilclmr2
04-20-2009, 12:24 AM
wk4alvn, your going to need a torque soon. Thats a huge drop in RPM when it locks up.

Glasshog
04-20-2009, 07:47 AM
What is a XRT, and a 5" TBE? Sorry for the stupid question, but I couldn't find it on their website.

Deuce
04-21-2009, 08:56 AM
The XRT is a programmer made by H & S performance and the 5" TBE is a complete exhaust system......turbo back exhaust....here is a link of a company selling a kit for the 2 items
http://www.rollinsmokediesel.com/pd-20075-2009-dodge-67l-rsd-xrt5-exhaust-package.cfm

JIM

Glasshog
04-21-2009, 11:07 AM
I'm wondering how much of a difference over stock the cold air system makes. Anyone have any links or experience with hp and torque #'s over stock with the S&B cold air for the 6.7?

Nigel R
04-21-2009, 11:46 AM
Installed the S&B on my 08 ,I was dissappointed to find the bottom open which allows under hood air to enter.So I closed the bottom with a HomeDepot 3"roof stack gasket ,then a piece of 3" tubing down to the under side of the truck.There is better throttle response and you can hear the turbo a little bit.

BroncoHound
04-28-2009, 08:41 PM
One thing to consider with the S&B (or any aftermarket CAI) if you live in a dusty environment is that a CAI may flow MORE air than the OEM setup but I have yet to find one that flows CLEANER air. I give credit to S&B for putting their flow and filtration data up for the customer to see but this data shows the S&B doesn't filter near the same levels as the OEM setup. For this reason, I have left the OEM setup on my truck. Sure, i'd like to hear the turbo whistle a bit more and a smoother throttle response is always nice but not at the expense of slagging a turbo due to contaminants getting through (I live in a VERY dusty environment).

That being said, i also have trouble believing a CAI can gain much in the way of power and efficiency on these trucks. The OEM system is actually a pretty well designed system and cold air intake really doesn't matter much on a turbocharged, intercooled engine. I can see 21 hand calculated MPG out of my '08 on 35" tires on the freeway with a 5" TBE, EGR delete, and Smarty on SW3. I doubt a CAI would improve on that much.

However, there are some areas of the intake system that I think CAN be improved upon to yield better efficiency (both in relation to power and fuel economy) and that is on the post-intercooler side. A 3.5" boost tube, aftermarket airhorn, and grid heater delete should allow a MUCH larger volume of air to enter the engine with much less turbulence which should yield a pretty significant gain. I think these three little upgrades will show a larger benefit to efficiency than a CAI. Just my opinion, however. I have no current scientific data to support my hypothesis.

Glasshog
04-29-2009, 08:07 AM
I spoke with a dealer for the S&B cai, and he said that unless I was willing to do the exhaust mods, a cai wouldn't gain enough, if anything, to defray the cost. I appreciated his honesty. I think the best bang for the buck is going to be the S67 programmer. I'll be saving for that one for a while.

6.7megaman
06-28-2009, 10:43 AM
just got my cai on then got check engine light oh great

BroncoHound
06-28-2009, 10:51 AM
Make sure the sensor plug is plugged in all the way. A bad connection there can cause a CEL.

4wheeler nut
06-28-2009, 09:28 PM
I have the S&B and love it. Been operating mills and equipment for to many years to hear the turbo. I really like the 8 layers of protection that it offers over the AFE PG7. Had one on a 04 6.0. Have nothing bad to say about AFE but the 250 price tag of the S&B over the 400 some for the AFE is hard to argue. The thing about CIA's is if a person dosn't put the hole pacage together then one piece of the puzzle dosn't make it a picture.

mega-engr
06-30-2009, 12:19 AM
I just installed my S & B as well. For the price, I am happy and it now has a nice little whistle when on boost. Good compliment to the smarty so far.