I have a Line-x spray on bedliner scheduled for Friday at 10:00 am. Removed 5er bed rails and tool box. Took a couple of hours.<br>I get to reverse the process this weekend. Should look beautiful after it's completed. I'll post some pics of the complete installation then.

I have the Rhino lining is one of the best investments I've made yet. That stuff really holds up well. I'm sure the Line-x is just as good. Only thing I've found out is it does fade after about a year, but still does the job...just does not look as good as new. Enjoy...<br>Big dawg

You should leave the rails in. I did and they sprayed over it, and its looks real nice.

According to hitch manufacturers I've checked, they recommend removing them to protect bed under rails from rust. Spraying over rails results in pockets where water will collect under rails. I am following recommendation for my Reese hitch.

Just make sure to periodicaly check for the rails settling into the coating. You don't want any play in any of the fastening hardware. <br><br>I have looked into the getting a spray-in but my concern is whether the coating is compressible under the rails and whether it will &quot;squish out&quot; and cause some less-than-desirable torque readings for the rail fasteners over time. <br><br>Anybody have pro or con on that issue?

Redramnc, thanks for the suggestion. Reese suggests that you check torque frequently on any installation of bed rails. I take a 1/2&quot; torque wrench with me when traveling and check daily until torque is stabilized. T wrench comes in handy for checking lug nuts also. :) <br><br>I'll try to remember to post on this in the future. I wonder how many RVers take the time to check torque on hitch nuts even once yearly? [eyecrazy]

Redramnc, thanks for the suggestion. Reese suggests that you check torque frequently on any installation of bed rails. I take a 1/2&quot; torque wrench with me when traveling and check daily until torque is stabilized. T wrench comes in handy for checking lug nuts also. :) <br><br>I'll try to remember to post on this in the future. I wonder how many RVers take the time to check torque on hitch nuts even once yearly? [eyecrazy]

on my dad's truck, we left the rails in and had them taped off. The bed was sprayed and his rails are still in direct contact with the bed. He did get some compression of the liner on the last truck and we had to retorque a few times. Of course, this is not good on the bolts. When the truck sold, the rail indentations looked horrible and he had those areas reshot. <br><br>Protectant 303 does a nice job at providing some UV protecion and restoring color.

I got a hitch that does HAVE any rails. 8)

Serria Phil, Remember to buy a new bolt package. Reese highly recommends NOT reusing mounting bolts due to the high stress and torque. Retorqued bolts are considerably weaker than new ones from prior torquing elongulation. Let us know how you like the liner, I'm considering one now that my bed interior is all scarred and scratched up.

A lot of posts above seem to mention fading of spray-in bedliners.... The brand we sell at Black Mountain Diesel, Perma-Tech, doesn't fade. It has the UV stabilization built-in, right in the mix of chemicals. No spray-on &quot;top coat&quot; needed, which other brands charge more for....<br> To my knowledge, it is the only one on the market that can claim that, while offering custom colors and color matching....<br> Two of our most recent customers have fifth-wheel rails in their truck beds, we had them remove the rails. Upon re-torquing the bolts, neither customer had an issue with loose bolts or rails &quot;squishing&quot; into the material. I'll have to ask them to check the bolts again in the spring, before going camping...

Well new to the group. We here in Placerville Ca. have Perma Tech. I'm considering them due to the color options. I'm thinking red on red. I've thought about having them also spray the 5 er hitch also. Maybe in black that might look nice. I have an older rail hitch that has had some scrapes &amp; bumps. Still doing the job right.

Rough torque value for the rails? Have the wrench, but have not torqued them before, good idea!

The company that I worked for did a study of bed liners both sprayed in and plastic add on's for our shop service trucks (which seen alot of abuse by the mechanics) they found Arma Coatings gave us the best wear and a written Lifetime Warranty for the $$$ these service trucks where retired at 3 years old and sold to the public...very few of them needed the lining touched up which Arma Coating did free...we did find some of the colored coatings would fade

Couldn't agree with you more. Arma coatings I have found to be the most durable. As soon as they figure out to make a color that won't fade, I'm going to have the bottom half of my truck sprayed. The rocks are tearing me up &gt;:(. Boy if that could be and option when you order your truck ;D. Hello, are you listening Chrystler. ::)

Bob Weis,<br>I took the following torque values from each companies instruction sheets.<br><br>Reese uses 1/2 inch diameter grade 5 bolts, torque to 85 lb-ft.<br><br>Valley Industries uses 5/8 inch diameter grade 5 bolts, torque 125-160 lb-ft. For their 1/2 inch diameter grade 5 bolts, torque to 75 lb-ft. 8)

I am sure the hitch makers feel grade 5 bolts are sufficient...but Ive never used anything but grade 8 on frame componets...it just makes me feel better....IMHO