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Old 01-17-2010, 12:47 AM
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it really worked!

today my dad and i worked on my truck to get the heat to work better.
the first thing we did was flush out the heater core. that seriously only took a few minutes.
while we were under the hood, we put the 30 dollar set of the rubber piece and a 190 degree thermostat. the 190 t-stat is alot bigger, so we put it to a belt sander till it would fit in right.
put new anti freeze in, fired her up let her sit for a few minutes, while loadin her up to go to the dump (figured we gotta run it to get the stuff into the system, y not get rid of the nasty stuff while we're at it) got in the truck to leave, and it was more warm then when previously i ran it on the road for a half hour!
on the way back from the dump, and after we had taken the cardboard out from in front of the radiator (maybe five miles total at this point) we turned the heat off cause we were hot! that was incredible and made my day
the fact that it was forty degrees outside may have had something to do with it, but still. i think its MUCH better.
i just hope it doesnt get back to ridiculously cold to see if the heater works there or not. cheap easy, and usefull fix
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my heat was not working for a while I when to put in a new thermostat and found the the previous owner had put the thermostat in backwards.
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well that wasnt smart on their part lol at all.
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What is the listed application for this 190 thermostat, since I can't find one listed for a 12 valve anywhere.
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they arent for twelve valves. they're for 24 valves. you can get them anywhere. you just gotta shave about a quarter inch off the plate on it so it'll fit.
we took off the whole housing and brought it in next to the belt sander, sanded it, saw if it fit, sanded it, saw if it fit, and repeated till it worked. then we cleaned out the housing for it and then rinsed it off.
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After an accidental find and some research I have discovered that it appears a 318/360 V8 thermostat will fit our engines. Before you try that though try these autozone numbers. (Yes, I know, Autozone . . )

Duralast 15049 is listed as 192 & normally stocked in store.

Failsafe 7233-192 is also listed, but special order.

According to NAPA's listings the 318/360 thermostat is the same diameter and depth as a Cummins stat. It does lack the bypass closure disk, however. These are available up to 205 deg.

NOTE: I have not tried any of these solutions yet. I'm just passing on some information I found today.
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wow!!!! 205!!!??? thatd sure be nice lol
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wow!!!! 205!!!??? thatd sure be nice lol
Pull the fan and block off the radiator. I can get 205* easy....
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Originally Posted by Rampage1967
After an accidental find and some research I have discovered that it appears a 318/360 V8 thermostat will fit our engines. Before you try that though try these autozone numbers. (Yes, I know, Autozone . . )

Duralast 15049 is listed as 192 & normally stocked in store.

Failsafe 7233-192 is also listed, but special order.

According to NAPA's listings the 318/360 thermostat is the same diameter and depth as a Cummins stat. It does lack the bypass closure disk, however. These are available up to 205 deg.

NOTE: I have not tried any of these solutions yet. I'm just passing on some information I found today.
Don't use a thermostat without the disc, the engine will overheat because most of the coolant will bypass the radiator.
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I bought a new cummins thermostat and it didn,t have the disc on it
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well i put a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. i figured thatd do close to the same as takin off the fan with MUCH less effort time money etc etc etc lol
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well i put a piece of cardboard in front of the radiator. i figured thatd do close to the same as takin off the fan with MUCH less effort time money etc etc etc lol
At -20* or colder I do both....
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does it take alot? in honesty i can live with what i got. i spend 45 minutes AT THE MOST in the cab at once, so once im where i need to be i can get out into a warm building. and its only a bit below freezing here. so i cant see takin the fan off worth the effort. but, where its negative twenty, i'd sure be doin anything and everything i can to keep her warm too haha
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To get the 318/360 v8 t-stat to fit you would have to do as this guy did, sand/grind/shave the t-stat housing or the stat, whatever he did to fit the larger diameter stat. It is the same diameter as the 94-98 12 valves, and possibly 24valves t-stat. The 89-93 12 valve uses a smaller diameter t-stat.
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Originally Posted by bgilbert
To get the 318/360 v8 t-stat to fit you would have to do as this guy did, sand/grind/shave the t-stat housing or the stat, whatever he did to fit the larger diameter stat. It is the same diameter as the 94-98 12 valves, and possibly 24valves t-stat. The 89-93 12 valve uses a smaller diameter t-stat.
Interesting, because NAPA shows them being the same diameter. After some looking I did discover that 70's V8 stats were all larger. The slant 6 & later 318/360 are listed as the same (I looked at 91 for my checking). The slant 6 I checked specs for was a 77.

1991 Cummins stat specs from NAPA:
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Det...+50022+2022043

1991 318/360 gasser stat:
http://www.napaonline.com/Search/Det...+50022+2022043

Both of these were taken from their listing for a 1991 Dodge W250 4x4 truck.


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