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bds82401
02-24-2008, 09:56 AM
has any one out there had any problems with the new quadzilla adrenaline mine will not comute with the truck
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qzilla
02-24-2008, 01:30 PM
in more detail let us know what is going on
csrosenberry
02-24-2008, 06:34 PM
I am having an issue as well. I installed mine on sat. moring and right out of the shoot it was awesome I loved it but I had alot of surging around 1800 but I am using the tune that came in the box until I get this thing working. It felt powerful and smooth. I ran the power directly to the battery as that is what seems I am suppose to do. The number Nine fuse tap is deffinitely a solid connection. And everything works guage wise but I get to different situations. Mind you this did not start happening right away off the bat the box was flawless. One day later at least 30 startups later and over three hundred miles. I get the constant flashing of PL00 and if I try to change it I get a 256 code for a split second on the monitor. Or it will be stuck on a solid PL00. I live in CA and was at 190 temp wise for more than 60 miles to day and nothing changed. Since then every startup is different I get the Solid PL00 with no power and or the flashing PL00. So with that said what can I do. checked and rechecked everything Five or more times. Tried starting the truck up like 20 times. Tried disconnecting everything and the did it again nothing. On one start all I did was unplug the box put it back in and all was well for 15 miles then it froze on PL08 till I got home 40 miles later and shut the truck off. Then tried a restart and have had the same issues the PL00 as described above. Any help would be great. To QUAD himself if this helps any I have box ADR1002. Was I right to hook the box to the battery for power? That is the only thing that I am not confident in. But I have read it more than once. And everything else is done as described in the directions and as I said it worked Flawless for One day 300 miles and 30 plus startups just checking everthing out like the warm up protection feature and leaks and the regular starting and stoping. Thanks hope someone can help me figure this out.
sleeper-sport
02-24-2008, 06:49 PM
Here's my problem:
I just installed the adrenaline today and I can't get the truck to run for more than 4 seconds. I connected the map, data link, vp tap, power and ground to the battery and the #9 fuse tap. When I start the truck the rpm go up to 1500 and back to idle for a second, then up to 1500 again, back to idle then it dies. All this happens in a matter of 5 seconds. I thought it was the pump wire tap, so I stripped some of the black coating on the wire for a better connection but it's still the same. Any help of suggestions would be appreciated.
I removed the adrenaline and the truck runs fine now except I do have a CEL. I did the key trick and these are the codes I got:
1693- DTC detected in ECM or PCM
ECU
1689- No communication between ECU & injection pump module
0234- Turbo boost limit exceded
0122- Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor signal voltage too low.
This truck has a fass 150 system, II HRVP, cam sensor, mach 6's and connector tubes that are less than a month old. Before I installed the adrenaline I had no CEL....?
BigB82789
02-24-2008, 06:56 PM
Sounds like a data link problem.
qzilla
02-24-2008, 11:11 PM
csrosenberry,
That is really odd, Jlent has a similar sounding issue and I will tell you like I told him, I have never heard of that but, we will figure out what it is.
Sleeper-sport,
Untap your pump wire and see what happens. It sounds like you could be on the wrong pump wire??
1BAD4X4
02-24-2008, 11:27 PM
Yeah that sounds right...
I just posted on the thread on competitiondiesel.com that sleeper posted. Didn't think of that but I originally tapped the wrong wire and got the 1689 code.
csrosenberry
02-25-2008, 12:27 AM
Thanks QUAD, get this not 10 min. after I posted this I got in my truck to go to dinner with family about 45 min. away. As soon as I fired the truck up I had full function of the box. MAN! the power is great even on lower levels. So did dinner truck was off for hours and it was back to bone cold. Got in fired up display was flashing as advertised and after 5-10 min of driving bam fueling was instantly noticeable and the flashing went away. I had the box on PL04 and it ran just like it did before, again this box is awesome so much pull all the way through its great. And its all in one box. Then as I was climbing a grade I was careful to hold the pedal at a standstill and adjusted the levels from 4-8 and every time I hit the up button the power increased and my speed climed. Very impressed so far and I haven't even got a chance to try an aggresive tune. Thanks I keep you updated if the code comes up again.
J Lent
02-25-2008, 07:58 AM
csrosenberry,
That is really odd, Jlent has a similar sounding issue and I will tell you like I told him, I have never heard of that but, we will figure out what it is.
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I have been sick for a few days & my friend hasn't brought the truck around, but he has tried to fix it himself with no luck. He isn't too good on computers. I am feeling better today & hope to get on top of this issue soon. I'll keep you posted.
Thanks QUAD, get this not 10 min. after I posted this I got in my truck to go to dinner with family about 45 min. away. As soon as I fired the truck up I had full function of the box. MAN! the power is great even on lower levels. So did dinner truck was off for hours and it was back to bone cold. Got in fired up display was flashing as advertised and after 5-10 min of driving bam fueling was instantly noticeable and the flashing went away. I had the box on PL04 and it ran just like it did before, again this box is awesome so much pull all the way through its great. And its all in one box. Then as I was climbing a grade I was careful to hold the pedal at a standstill and adjusted the levels from 4-8 and every time I hit the up button the power increased and my speed climed. Very impressed so far and I haven't even got a chance to try an aggresive tune. Thanks I keep you updated if the code comes up again.
The problem that my friend is having is the same except the fact that the box hasn't worked at all after numerous cold starts & alot of driving. I knew you would love that box csrosenberry.
pokapotato
02-25-2008, 09:06 AM
I am having problems loading the program into the module...I think my computer is the problem, am going to try someone elses computer later today. The only other thing I see as I still havn't even ran the truck yet with the Adrenaline is that the Trans temp is reading 100degrees. Garage temp is 40 degrees. The 100 degree reading is there whether the wire is connected to the sending unit or not. Can't wait to get a program loaded and run it!!!!!1
qzilla
02-25-2008, 10:06 AM
100 degrees is the minimum.
Make sure you download the file you want first, then run through the driver install. Don't just plug the box in and try to go, it won't work!!!!
csrosenberry
02-27-2008, 07:20 PM
Well I am one SATISFIED customer. This box is great love the power and all the options work TT is dead on, and so is the high idle. I just have a few quirks. Don't know if they are being addressed but thought I had read something saying they were. I have not had the code read again and box has worked everytime since the weird bug on sat. Today put the ADR2018 on the truck woohoo! got to love the power. AWESOME!! Here are the quirks 1) My box flashes continuously even at 190 but I think that that was being addressed. 2) My truck stumbles at 1700 sounds like a miss and the truck is JE ER ER ER KY. I know that others have this but was it addressed on the aggressive files. and 3) not sure if this is suppose to happen or not. When I leave the truck with TT enabled at the 2 min. mark my truck goes to high idle for the rest of the 3min. TT. Seems like that defeats the purpose of letting the truck idle and cool down, and is that bad for the truck to be killed at a elevated rpm? Don't know but throwing it out there. Haven't had a chance to check the warm up yet as I have not been able to stay out of it long enough to try it. and with the program that came with the box I had to do the GO down to PL00 then back UP to PL? to get the fueling to work so I'll have to see if that is the case with this file to. And haven't had a real good oppurtunity to check out the defuel at 1250 but my quad sensor reads 40 or so degrees cooler than mechanical and in the small burst I got to do, the mechanical guage never did go past 1300 which would be 1260 on the quad so I think its working but like I said need a grade or some good acreage to check that with my mods can't just peg the needle like some of the more done up trucks. But even with those quirks This box is unreal. The High Idle was super smooth and the TT was dead on great features that I haven't had before, and got them all now on one box. So I will check the defueling and the PL up down thing out and then put up another post to see what I find out. Can't wait to get up and go to work tommorow or should I say get up and drive the truck tommorow.
J Lent
02-27-2008, 08:48 PM
3) not sure if this is suppose to happen or not. When I leave the truck with TT enabled at the 2 min. mark my truck goes to high idle for the rest of the 3min. TT. .
That isn't good. Better load a tune with out the TT until quad gets that issue resolved.
qzilla
02-27-2008, 10:06 PM
The TT and HI are working as they should.
If you want the HI not to work then don't leave it on PL00 and only the TT will work.
This is the whole reason we do not have an EGT based TT with the High Idle. If you idle the truck up the egt's drop quickly and the trucks die really quick. If you lower the egt far enough for this not to happen then the truck has the chance to run until the safety shutoff comes in at 15 minutes.
So, it is like a being between a rock and a hard place, what do you do?
Now, on the Commander you can set whatever you want. If you set it one way and don't like it you can change it in about 10 seconds.
The fueling is probably a matter of too much fuel and not enough air.
The only other thing it could be would be something wrong with the box although it sounds like it is working properly? Does it do this stumbling with the 1000 series tunes or just the aggressive ones?
csrosenberry
02-27-2008, 10:11 PM
Figured it out If the PL is set to PL00 then the truck thinks it is suppose to high idle. Turn the truck off in any PL other than PL00 and it works flawlessly. So I think that was a error on my behalf. The warm up safety also works perfect. The only things left are the flashing of the PL display that are constant no matter what the engine temp is and the surging at 1700, I can feel it at all levels from PL03 and up, it is just more noticeable at the higher levels. It can be drove around but that is an rpm I constantly drive through and around in congested freeway travel. I feel it all the time and it just doesn't seem right to me. The box is so smooth everywhere else wether it be hard on the throttle or not i'm sure in due time Quad will be able to smooth it out or am I missing something. And it seems as though the switching from one level to another is functioning no going to PL00 and then back up, so far so good. Still very impressed with the product can't wait to be able to adjust all these features from the new commander or what ever they may call it, I just know I will be getting it. This box is going to have me grinning for months to come. By the way JLent I am anxious to hook up to the trailer and see how she does I predict no problems what so ever in the egt department. And if so got the defueling to fix that real quick.
J Lent
02-27-2008, 10:17 PM
The TT and HI are working as they should.
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Oh, I wasn't aware that it had to be on pl00 for the high idle to work properly, sorry. Quad, any news about the issue my other truck is having with the warm up mode & flashing pl00? Justin said that you were working on a fix, just figured I would ask.
csrosenberry
02-27-2008, 10:21 PM
Qzilla you posted in between me writing my post. Thanks though. It happened on the tune that came with the box and the new tune, I went straight to the aggresive I couldn't help myself I figured if I'm going to download a tune why not get the aggressive one on there. I have to do the downloads at our shop so I figured why try a bunch and have to keep going back and forth just get the aggressive tune with all the goodies and be done with it. So I hope I awnsered your question so you can help me. Great product QUAD. And so far great customer service.
csrosenberry
02-27-2008, 10:24 PM
These guys and there products are no joke just like you said JLent.
J Lent
02-27-2008, 10:30 PM
These guys and there products are no joke just like you said JLent.
Hate to say I told you so! Quad has great products, no doubt about it. Now if you just listen to me & copy the rest of my sig, you will be high rollin'. [guitar]
qzilla
02-27-2008, 11:04 PM
JLent, I just made a post in the other thread about the warm up fix. I will email it to you to test for me.
csrosenberry,
Without knowing exactly which tunes are doing this it is hard for me to say but, it is possble that if the warm up mode was acting up like it has on some trucks then that could also be the high idle/tt thing????
Hard to say with the info a hand but, now that you know how it works you can at least see if it is behaving properly.
csrosenberry
02-27-2008, 11:29 PM
Oh doing what you said works perfectly, just leave it on any level other than off and bam just like you said. Did you catch my long post on the other page. I posted it as you posted the response. My error for sure just didn't know thats how the box thinks. FYI my warm up mode works perfect just the PL display keeps blinking but it all functions right. Any Idea what I should try for the surging. Do I need to try one of the 1000 series are those not the most refined or should the 2000 be just as good by now. Can't thank you enough for working with me on this Quad.
Bjans
02-28-2008, 01:08 AM
With a little more seat time with the box i do notice surging with light throttle in overdrive. The roughest spot is right around 1800 rpms but it does surge annoyingly with light throttle in all power levels above 2
csrosenberry
02-28-2008, 05:03 PM
Well still have continous flashing of the module but the warm up feature functions correct. Still have to go to PL00 then back up to desired setting to get full fueling but not everytime. And don't know what to do about the surging should I try a 1000 series or what? Everything like the HI & TT work. I like how the high idle knows to work when the temp is below the warm up temp of 140 regardless of PL setting and when it gets to that temp it knows to drop back to a regular idle, the funtions are SWEET! Man got to love this box it is so capable, all my problems are just refinements, when its all said and done nothing will come close to this thing.
Oh, I wasn't aware that it had to be on pl00 for the high idle to work properly, sorry.[director]And how long have you been beta testing J Lent?? We've went over that about 4 times now throughout the whole testing. No worries, I'm just roughin ya up a bit[laugh].
J Lent
02-28-2008, 07:52 PM
[director]And how long have you been beta testing J Lent?? We've went over that about 4 times now throughout the whole testing. No worries, I'm just roughin ya up a bit[laugh].
My truck has always went into high idle on any level. I guess I missed it the first time when you guys talked about it. I'm like Beavis & Butthead here, I just read the posts & say "POWER, POWER".:o
I'm like Beavis & Butthead here, I just read the posts & say "POWER, POWER".Hee hee...hee hee hee hee...Dude [laugh]
JDGnut
02-28-2008, 08:01 PM
My truck has always went into high idle on any level. I guess I missed it the first time when you guys talked about it. I'm like Beavis & Butthead here, I just read the posts & say "POWER, POWER".:o
It will go into high idle in any power level during the warm up time..
dodgediesel
02-28-2008, 08:05 PM
My truck has always went into high idle on any level. I guess I missed it the first time when you guys talked about it. I'm like Beavis & Butthead here, I just read the posts & say "POWER, POWER".:o
That's what I want is for it to go into high idle on any level?? I wonder if Quad can make that happen or if the Commander can do that? Kinda a pain in the butt to have to switch it back to PL00 everytime. Sometimes I forget and come out to a regular idiling truck.[yuk]
J Lent
02-28-2008, 09:31 PM
That's what I want is for it to go into high idle on any level?? I wonder if Quad can make that happen or if the Commander can do that? Kinda a pain in the butt to have to switch it back to PL00 everytime. Sometimes I forget and come out to a regular idiling truck.[yuk]
I leave my truck on any PL & when in warmup mode, the PL00 flashes & it hits high idle. I'll drive down the road & all of a sudden the power kicks in & it takes off. It could be the Smarty high idle taking over though, it has been really cold in PA.
pokapotato
03-01-2008, 05:19 PM
Well I loaded the Comp beta tune into my Adrenaline. This is the first tune I have tried. I had also just got done installing a Blue Chips cover on my VP-44 for the wire tap. I also had the fuel system open for the installation of the new fuel pressure sending unit for the Adrenaline. The truck was slightly hard starting because of the air in the fuel and when it started it took off in an overspeed. I immediately shut if down. Not sure how high the RPM went. I remembered that I had not plugged in the APPS sensor connector. It suprises me that these trucks will go into overspeed if that connector is not in. Seems too easy to do. Is it because of the module that it acts this way? Anyway the truck is fine and am enjoying the Adrenaline. Need to get a new tune loaded up though.
lostnwalmart
03-01-2008, 05:32 PM
if the apps sensor is not pluged in it should idle and just idle it should not over speed
pokapotato
03-01-2008, 05:49 PM
Well I felt the same way about it. There is basically no throttle position signal. If anything the truck should not start, or it should just go to low idle. All I know is that when it fired with the engine cold and having sat for a couple weeks it immediately went to full fuel it seemed to me. Scary, and the garage was full of smoke not to mention some disgruntled neighbors who heard a 24 valve Cummins with a straight five inch exhaust go into an overspeed. It's not something you want to try to troubleshoot, but I wonder if it is because of the Adrenaline that it acted that way and because of the tune I had loaded with a very high red line that it acted like this. Can Quad supply any insight?
csrosenberry
03-02-2008, 07:11 PM
Well I switched to a 1000 series production tune. 1025 to be exact. My truck still stumbles at anything over PL02 and gets worse the higher I get. (at or around 1700 rpms). WHY do I have this shuddering? Still have the flashing of the PL even after warmup. And sometimes when I shut the truck off to use the turbo timer I can not kill it with the break or gas pedal the timer just has to run its course to shut the truck down. I am also wondering if any body elses truck runs like mine. When I mash the pedal it doesn't seem like all that much different then stock a little but not much then when I get to 1600rpms wam! there is some serious power and then wam! again at 2075-2150 another strong does of power I like it but I have not experienced the super smoothness of this box with neither 2 production tunes or the aggresive tune that I tried. The power is there for sure but my edge comp was way smoother. It just felt like the truck was more powerful and the adrenaline seems to kick in the power. Any body else's truck seem this way. A quick note to the shuddering If I go to PL00 or PL01 I can not get it to do it and if off the truck works like a charm supper smooth but way less power.
csrosenberry
03-06-2008, 08:17 PM
Hey quad when you get back can you check this post and my last one on this thread I need some help. I have also found that under light throttle my truck stumbles in the 2000-2300rpm range just like at 1700 but not as jerky sounds more like its missing. I don't know what is the deal DO I get another box, try a different tune, or where do I start to look? I am going to pay attention to the boost guage vs. my mechanical I read something about map sensors where if there bad they throw the adrenaline out of wack. I love the power just want the smoothness I keep hearing about. My truck rips but it has points of added power and stumbling while driving in the above described rpm ranges. Thanks hope to hear from you. If there is a way to get in contact with you on the phone I am sure that I could explain myself much better.
EZuber5
11-06-2009, 06:44 PM
I was thinking about getting the Quadzilla Adrenaline, from hearing all these problems should i still get it?
01 2500 cummins 6sp, 4 inch mbrp, bd stage 1 turbo, k&n intake
x1phats10x
11-07-2009, 08:03 AM
these are all old problems the mostly have been solved ive had mine on my truck for over a year now and havent had anyproblems its a great product with many options for power
EZuber5
11-19-2009, 04:07 PM
I just got the Quadzilla Adrenaline today, i put it already and have no problem with it except i cant get my boost to show on the monitor. how do i get it to work? also when i floor the gas pedal it seems to lag, can anyone help me with that?
thanks
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