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01-31-2003, 02:17 PM
I have a mid 92' and the pump is all black. I really can't read the numbers on the pump tag. How can I tell if my truck was included in the pump recall and if it was done. If it was recalled and it was not done will they still do it? Bill
01-31-2003, 04:36 PM
I went to the dealer that I bought my truck from to check on mine. They have all the past history of the truck in the computer if it was done thru DC. Luckily, mine had a new pump on it. If yours has not been done, you will still have to pay for it. Due to your warranty being out.
01-31-2003, 07:18 PM
I thought if it was a safety recall they had to fix it even if it was out of warranty. Only recalls they didn't have to fix out of warranty was updates and things like that. Oh well, guess I will still check and see if the update was ever done. Bill
01-31-2003, 07:28 PM
You may be right, but, when I was talking it over with service manager, he said I would have to pay for it if the recall has not been done on my truck and it was out of warranty.
01-31-2003, 07:31 PM
A recall must be fixed there is no time limit....any dealer can check it with your VIN# and mileage..you can ask for a printout sheet also with all you truck info
I must have missed out on reading the topic on the pump recall. What was the recall about and what trucks were included? I am asking because mine was built in mid 92 and has a black pump on it also.<br><br>Thanks<br>John
02-01-2003, 08:49 AM
If you want to see if your truck was supposed to have the recall. Go to THIS (http://dodgeram.info/tsb/0_old_ix.htm) page. At the very bottom you will see the All Data section, select your year and it will give you the recalls and TSB's.
I had no idea about this recall, DOH!<br><br>So I printed out the date codes and popped open the hood -- there are NO tags on my pump. No rivet holes in the housing either. I washed the paint off down to bare metal where the tag should be.<br><br>The pump is black, and did not appear to have been tampered with (before me). Though it's gasket to the timing cover was not painted over??<br><br>Anyone know if any pumps came from the factory w/o tags? Or do I have to assume that some pump shop washed the original tag off, painted the pump, and slapped her back on the truck?<br><br>Thanks fellas,<br><br>Alec
02-03-2003, 09:26 PM
I would say a pump shop or someone else removed the tag/plate. Pumps came from Bosch with a plate with stamped in numbers and letters. Dodge replaces the pump and it has a Mopar tag at bottom fender side of pump. Cummins or Dodge would have had this to identify specs.
02-03-2003, 10:36 PM
I went to the dealer today and after haggling with the @!#%$^& lady on the otherside of the counter. They finally looked my VIN number up. Only made me wait a half hour >:( They handed me a piece of paper and said there was no recalls for my truck. So I guess mine was not included in the recall. It did show however the last time my truck was ever at a dealer was at 5,642 miles. It now has 199,000 on it. That is probably why it has run so long. They haven't had their ahnds on it.<br><br>Also when the lady asked me how many miles were on it and I said 200,000 her reply was "you know it's out of warranty" my reply was " you know you still have to fix it, if it is recalled ;D". She thought different, but I informed her that it was a NHTSA recall and that promptly put her into action. I was hoping to get to have to threaten to call the zone manager [laugh]. Bill
02-04-2003, 02:07 AM
Atta boy Farmall... talk about uninformed or lazy, either way, not good in this case since runaway can have fatal consequences for driver an passengers..geeezzz..<br><br>bob.
02-04-2003, 08:46 AM
If you would like to know if your truck was included in the recall, and if it was ever done on your truck, you can call the Chrysler Recall Center at 1-800-853-1403.<br> Give them your VIN# and they will tell you over the phone. They even called the dealership for me. I called the dealership and got the "I never heard of a recall on the injector pump, and I been doing this for 30 years" story. They didn't have the recall # listed (# 605....this is Dodge's number. The NHTSA # is 93E034001, but the dealership will go by Dodge's number.) She was very helpful in speaking with them, making sure they got the right recall, and knew the proper parts to install.......But now I'm thinking that I might oughta pick a different dealership. They're scaring me a little bit. <br> They definitely have to perform the recall, but it is helpful to go through the proper channels so you don't get the standard flak..........I don't know if I would trust the dealership to give me the proper information.........After I spoke to them, they had me down for a very minor (and WRONG!!) fix!! The recall center fixed all that. I hope. We'll see Thursday.<br>
Thank you for the information on the Recall Center. I called, and didn't even have to hold for too long. The woman on the line was efficient and helpful -- but no new pump for me, I'm sad to say. My VIN is not included in the recall, even though I have a '91 with an aftercooler.<br><br>Thanks for the help!<br><br>Alec
02-05-2003, 01:42 PM
I called mine in also and yes you are right they were very helpful and very nice folks. Mine also was not involved in the recall but she did say she needed to enter my information in their system for future recalls so it may be a good idea to touch base with them just to see that you are in the system.
02-10-2003, 01:17 AM
I'm wondering if i got screwed by the ******* when my pump went out. I didn't know about the recall and bought a rebuilt pump ($1500) and I wonder if they had to pay for it. I didn't feel comfortable there but I was stuck on the road with no tools so I had no choice.
02-10-2003, 02:39 AM
FWIW, my younger brother had this done on his 92 CTD.
When the job was done they did NOT put in parts, the entire pump was removed, a new one ordered and my brother insisted that it be dropped at a qualified Bosch serv. ctr. for checking..(he also called the shop and told them to tweak it up 15% which they did. (he never told the dealer about the tweak part.) But they got him a brand new pump, and my brother paid for the "once over" so to speak.
Of course this is the same dealership that honoured 8 warranty replacements on a PS pump too.. all in all, this is truly a 5 Star Dealer.
But NOT just PARTS !!!
okcummins, you could make the call and see if your truck was subject to the recall. If it was, they will let you know if it's outstanding or completed. If it shows completed, and you have a receipt, I would say someone owes you!
02-10-2003, 12:53 PM
Just got off the phone with the Daimler Chrysler recall center. Unfortunately my truck is not affected. It is for late 91 and early 92 trucks.<br>I had to give the recall number (605) and wait for them to check some archives. ???<br>I did find out that my truck was built on 8-15 90, and sat on the dealers lot until 10-31-91. [laugh]<br>
02-10-2003, 05:02 PM
HAHAHAHAH!,<br> Funny you should mention that your truck sat at the dealer so long cause when i called today the guy at the service center (bob i think) he said he just talked to someone who had that truck and how long it sat before delivery.It was YOU!!<br> Anyways heres the poo on the pumps: They recieved a shipment of pumps from june 1991 to october of 1991 from a supplier.These pumps were developing problems by 1994 so they did a recall to replace them.If you dont have a truck maunfactured whithin this timeline then the recall does not pertain to you......Unless your pump was replaced under warranty before 1994 in which case they would again replace your pump because the faulty pumps were also installed during the warranty period from dealer stock. If you are a good debater and you replaced you pump in the 90's at a dealer, i dont believe they have any way to prove that you didnt get a bad pump. And they may replace it again fer NUTIN! Good luck!<br> -RATCHET-
02-10-2003, 05:53 PM
he said he just talked to someone who had that truck and how long it sat before delivery.It was YOU!!<br>I guess we can't trust him with any secrets [laugh]<br>Jay
02-11-2003, 02:36 PM
Here is some more info on the pumps included in the recall:<br>Pumps manufactured between March and September, 1991 (date codes 163 through 169) without an infinity symbol on the data plate or tag (rebuilt pumps). On the pumps after this, the data plates and tags have an infinity symbol on the right side. This is what the service tech is looking for. It says, "If date code is 163 through 169 and no infinity symbol is present, replace pump". This info comes from page 3 of the actual Recall service procedure.<br> Mine is in the shop now waiting for my fresh pump to come in!! ;D. Thank You Jesus!! <br> For what it is worth, my data plate was covered with a coat of black paint so thick that I couldn't check it for the symbol.
The specific pump in question was Bosch # 0 460 426 184, Cummins # 3918991.<br><br>They were replaced with Bosch 0 460 426 205, Cummins 3923346.<br><br>DBF
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