Powertrax Lock-Right Vs. No-Slip Dana 80
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Powertrax Lock-Right Vs. No-Slip Dana 80
I am thoroughly confused about what I have been hearing on these two products. Basically my choices are down to these two as there does not seem to be any "good" Limited Slips currently available new.
Anyway, I have been hearing nothing but good about the No-Slips but I emailed asking Randy's Ring and Pinion about purchasing one and was told that they no longer carry the No-Slip because of SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many Warranty Issues!
Randy's Ring and Pinion quote:
"We stopped carrying the No-Slip because we had too many warranty issues and because of which wasn’t worth the difference in price over the Lock-Right. I’m not sure who would still carry that if that is in fact what you are sure of that you want, but if you are interested in getting a Lock-Right I do have those. If there is anything else I cant help you out with, please let me know! Thanks!"
What are your real world experiences with either unit?
Thanks,
Joe
Anyway, I have been hearing nothing but good about the No-Slips but I emailed asking Randy's Ring and Pinion about purchasing one and was told that they no longer carry the No-Slip because of SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many Warranty Issues!
Randy's Ring and Pinion quote:
"We stopped carrying the No-Slip because we had too many warranty issues and because of which wasn’t worth the difference in price over the Lock-Right. I’m not sure who would still carry that if that is in fact what you are sure of that you want, but if you are interested in getting a Lock-Right I do have those. If there is anything else I cant help you out with, please let me know! Thanks!"
What are your real world experiences with either unit?
Thanks,
Joe
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First, the Lock Right is not a limited slip. There are no clutches, just springs and locking collars. It is locked or unlocked. I had one in a truck behind a Ford mustang 5.0 and promptly broke it. The design for the Dana 80 might (should) be beefier, but I would look well before parting with any money. They unlock when going around a corner, making a clicking sound that can get old fast. Wasn't there a stock option for a limited slip? The one in my truck works well, though I don't know what it is.
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I know the Powertrax's are not limited slips. It is just that NO ONE makes a good limited slip anymore (I dont want the Track Lok) for the Dana 80's from what I have read.
So I am basically down to the two Powertrax Lockers as I have a 3.55 rear gear and dont want to go to a 4.10 with Detroit Locker. I just need to know which of the two units are stronger and more reliable! I am not worried about the noisiness as this is not a daily driver I will probably only be using the truck once a week at most.
Thanks,
Joe
So I am basically down to the two Powertrax Lockers as I have a 3.55 rear gear and dont want to go to a 4.10 with Detroit Locker. I just need to know which of the two units are stronger and more reliable! I am not worried about the noisiness as this is not a daily driver I will probably only be using the truck once a week at most.
Thanks,
Joe
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Get yourself a Detroit True Trac available in a Dana 80. It bolts in and is a GREAT limited slip unit. No clutches just helical gears that bind against the carrier when one axle is turning at a different speed than the other. It feels like an open diff meaning you cannot tell any adverse handling effects or noise when it is working. If I do spin a tire it is because they both broke traction and spinning. It works very well.
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Good advice, Phila, but more $ outlay. It really depends on what you want to do with the truck. The True-Trac is a limited slip and the Lock-Rite is a real locker. I had a Lock-Rite in my Jeep and it's a simple design, easy to install (in an open carrier--if you already have a LS carrier, you're gonna need to find/buy an open one), and the clicking isn't all that bad. You can even limit the noticeability of the clicking by using Lucas Oil Stabilizer in the diff.
SkyHarbor, I have a full-blown Detroit locker in my Jeep now because it's a stronger unit than the Lock-Rite and when I did my axle swap, that's what I went with. You can't beat the strength of a Detroit locker--it's the most bullet-proof unit out there. But if I was buying a locker to install in an axle already under my truck, I'd buy another Lock-Rite in a second. Now, if you don't really want a full locker, than the True-Trac is the choice, but it is more $. So it comes down to what are you doing with the truck--mostly off-road or mostly on-road? Off road=Lock-Rite, on road= True Trac, unless you don't mind the Lock-Rite's clicking. Personally, I'd never spend the money on a limited slip, but that's just me with my Jeeping background.
SkyHarbor, I have a full-blown Detroit locker in my Jeep now because it's a stronger unit than the Lock-Rite and when I did my axle swap, that's what I went with. You can't beat the strength of a Detroit locker--it's the most bullet-proof unit out there. But if I was buying a locker to install in an axle already under my truck, I'd buy another Lock-Rite in a second. Now, if you don't really want a full locker, than the True-Trac is the choice, but it is more $. So it comes down to what are you doing with the truck--mostly off-road or mostly on-road? Off road=Lock-Rite, on road= True Trac, unless you don't mind the Lock-Rite's clicking. Personally, I'd never spend the money on a limited slip, but that's just me with my Jeeping background.
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I'd stay away from the Lock-Rite in a heavy vehicle. I had one in a 3/4 ton 4x4 Chev and I broke several, finally went to a Detroit. In a light rig they seem to work good though.
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Get yourself a Detroit True Trac available in a Dana 80. It bolts in and is a GREAT limited slip unit. No clutches just helical gears that bind against the carrier when one axle is turning at a different speed than the other. It feels like an open diff meaning you cannot tell any adverse handling effects or noise when it is working. If I do spin a tire it is because they both broke traction and spinning. It works very well.
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I know the Powertrax's are not limited slips. It is just that NO ONE makes a good limited slip anymore (I dont want the Track Lok) for the Dana 80's from what I have read.
So I am basically down to the two Powertrax Lockers as I have a 3.55 rear gear and dont want to go to a 4.10 with Detroit Locker. I just need to know which of the two units are stronger and more reliable! I am not worried about the noisiness as this is not a daily driver I will probably only be using the truck once a week at most.
Thanks,
Joe
So I am basically down to the two Powertrax Lockers as I have a 3.55 rear gear and dont want to go to a 4.10 with Detroit Locker. I just need to know which of the two units are stronger and more reliable! I am not worried about the noisiness as this is not a daily driver I will probably only be using the truck once a week at most.
Thanks,
Joe
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About ten+ years ago I had a Lock-Right in my '92 Wrangler on 31's. It was ok, a little noisy and it made the short wheel base Jeep a bit twitchy on the highway. It did fine until I pulled someone out of a ditch - it was then that I sheared the 4 spring-loaded pins. They wedged themselves in between the two halves and I was stuck with a spool of sorts until I removed the locker and reinstalled the spider gears. At least it didn't cost too much and I got my $$ back. You get what you pay for.
I would go with the True-trac like had been previously suggested. Why do you want to avoid this?
I would go with the True-trac like had been previously suggested. Why do you want to avoid this?
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No way I'd put a lunch box locker in a D80, they are pretty light duty IMO. I had one in the front of my old Jeep (D30). It lasted for a while
IMO go with with factory LS and tighten the clutch pack up or a detroit locker. I've owned all three in vehicle or another, the detroit is a very strong design.
IMO go with with factory LS and tighten the clutch pack up or a detroit locker. I've owned all three in vehicle or another, the detroit is a very strong design.
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It did fine until I pulled someone out of a ditch - it was then that I sheared the 4 spring-loaded pins. They wedged themselves in between the two halves and I was stuck with a spool of sorts until I removed the locker and reinstalled the spider gears. At least it didn't cost too much and I got my $$ back. You get what you pay for.
I would go with the True-trac like had been previously suggested. Why do you want to avoid this?
I would go with the True-trac like had been previously suggested. Why do you want to avoid this?
I WILL NOT BE GOING WITH A TRUE TRAC PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have already stated this 3 times in my posts so can you all just get over that fact?
If I can find a Power-Lok I will strongly consider going to the expense of rebuilding the unit and paying for the installation but for the amount of use I see this truck getting (IT IS NOT A DAILY DRIVER) I dont see the need to go to the exspense!
I am only interested in hearing about experiences between a Lock Right and No Slip in this thread that is why the Title of the Thread is Lock-Right Vs. No-Slip! I hate to be so rude but I think I have explained myself well enough as that is ALL I would like answered. If you want to make a suggestion for someone else fine but please do not question my requests for an opinion on the subject I am asking about!
Thanks,
Joe
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I WILL NOT BE GOING WITH A TRUE TRAC PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have already stated this 3 times in my posts so can you all just get over that fact?
I am only interested in hearing about experiences between a Lock Right and No Slip in this thread that is why the Title of the Thread is Lock-Right Vs. No-Slip! I hate to be so rude but I think I have explained myself well enough as that is ALL I would like answered. If you want to make a suggestion for someone else fine but please do not question my requests for an opinion on the subject I am asking about!
Thanks,
Joe
I have already stated this 3 times in my posts so can you all just get over that fact?
I am only interested in hearing about experiences between a Lock Right and No Slip in this thread that is why the Title of the Thread is Lock-Right Vs. No-Slip! I hate to be so rude but I think I have explained myself well enough as that is ALL I would like answered. If you want to make a suggestion for someone else fine but please do not question my requests for an opinion on the subject I am asking about!
Thanks,
Joe
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1) Basically my choices are down to these two as there does not seem to be any "good" Limited Slips currently available new.
2)It is just that NO ONE makes a good limited slip anymore (I dont want the Track Lok) for the Dana 80's from what I have read.
3)Not Interested in one of these.
I believe that is 3!
Joe
2)It is just that NO ONE makes a good limited slip anymore (I dont want the Track Lok) for the Dana 80's from what I have read.
3)Not Interested in one of these.
I believe that is 3!
Joe