cquestad

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madhat

??????????? What?

rip 112

Looks like it disappeared. Most likely for a good reason.

Lary Ellis (Top)

If you are talking about the ATS thread I removed it until I find out if it is true or not. If it is true I don't have a problem putting it back up so both ATS and the members can discuss it.

But if it is just a false smear by someone, then I do not wish to be a part of that by leaving it on the forum. I am all for sharing the truth, but I will not help spread lies.

madhat

ATS thread? I left your last one up with an explanation.

CTD NUT

I doubt you will get any type of reasonable confirmation from them at this point. It appears (from another BB) that ATS has been contacted and that this letter has not been denied. I suppose from your stand point that is still here-say and conjecture (understandable) but I thought I would throw out there. Delete this post if you feel it will only stir the pot - that is not my intent. Only to pass on info.

cquestad

Thanks Lary...

Makes sense.

Lary Ellis (Top)

Actually I was told they are putting together a response, what that is I do not know because I was unable to talk to anyone other than the receptionist.

cquestad

Honestly...ALL experiences aside, I have NO idea how anyone could write a letter like that (IF it is true).

The response will be interesting to say the least.

The EPA employee that is was addressed to could be contacted to confirm. I doubt there would be any cover up (IF needed) from that side.

Lary...

You could share your feelings about this...in a hypothetical sense.

I don't mean to stir the pot...I know you try to keep it fair and level.

CTD NUT

Thanks Lary, fair enough for sure. I am anxiously awaiting an official response from ATS. I hope you will post it here whenever it comes your way. This has literally set the diesel BB's on fire overnight with barely a peep from ATS. Time will tell but it doesn't look good for them.

Mike D

I got this in an email from Kelli at ATS.


Clint has prepared a statement and has asked me to post EXACTLY this on his behalf

After reading the forums for the last several years, and being in the business for more than fifteen, I thought I had seen it all. However, the level of hate in this last series of forum posts is unbelievable.

At SEMA this year, my attorney Stewart Cables and I attended numerous seminars regarding the new CARB and EPA regulations for our industry. At SEMA, ATS (among others) spoke with the EPA about potential ways to relax the stringent guidelines the EPA enforces on the diesel community, and how we could lessen its impact through legislation. In the meantime, Stewart drafted a letter (the one you see on the forums) and sent it to me on my email. When he sent me the draft, I was totally surprised. I told him he was absolutely not allowed to send it to the EPA or anyone else for that matter. I did not think he would identify specific people or companies, and ATS has never been the type of company to participate in negative tactics like this. He agreed. The letter posted on the forums right now is the only draft in existence.

When I told him no, as his client, that was the end of that. But now, thanks to whoever posted this information, this information is completely public and everyone in the whole diesel community knows about it. Now, the EPA knows information I would never, ever allow to be posted on the internet. Thanks to this letter, to that secret person, the EPA has a very good idea of EVERYONE who has purchased a DPF delete kit, and they can see how many of these delete kits are out there on the road.

Before this hit the forums, Jared sent me a text saying “Thanks for the letter to the EPA.” I had no idea what he was talking about since Stewart’s letter was never released. At first, I thought he was joking. I asked, pleaded with him to forward me the email or send me the source so I could figure out what he was talking about. He refused. Why? Why would he refuse to let me know where he got the email, if I truly sent the letter? I know that a lot of you will call Jared to see if this is true, which is great. It seems that everyone knew about this letter before myself and ATS.

On this letter, that supposedly went to the EPA, where is my signature? Where is Stewart’s signature? Where is the ATS letterhead we use for every letter that goes out the door? Where is the envelope? How could someone say ATS sent a letter to the EPA without intercepting it in the mail?

The only two people in the world to have ever seen this letter, before December, were myself and my attorney. Yet here it is, all over the internet for everyone to see and rip on ATS as rats and liars. That’s bs. ATS is aggressively pursuing the individuals involved with illegally accessing my private and confidential emails.
My name has been drug through the mud and I will not tolerate the public posting of my private attorney emails. ATS will find out who accessed its private files and we will pursue every legal option available when we do.

I have received evidence that an unauthorized source has accessed my personal e-mail. This is unfortunately not the first time that strictly confidential internal information from my e-mail was accessed and used in a negative way towards ATS, but for the first time I now have proof as to who gained access to the server. I am very upset about this and concerned for all in the industry including ATS, as we all are in this niche industry together.

Please see ATS’ formal stance here: http://www.atsdiesel.com/ats_new/resp/response.asp[/font]

CTD NUT

The plot thickens.....

If the allegations in that letter are true, I really hope that whoever is responsible will get the same smear-tactics treatment that ATS got all over the internet. Very disappointing.

Lary Ellis (Top)

I can't help but wonder if all the guys who came in here ready to roast them over an open fire in a "Jerry Springer" type free for all will still be accusing me of having my "head up Clints rear" and trying to cover up for him.

I am glad I did what I did and tried to slow the roll here on this thing until we could hear something other than the "Slam masters" at work. I for one prefer to hear the "truth" rather than all the little school girl gossip these things generate.

Good luck to Clint and ATS in solving this issue and I hope they do a little roasting of their own, legal style

Lary Ellis (Top)

I would have been happy to share but I had nothing more to share myself, all I could do is the same as you guys and wait for the truth to come out as I knew it eventually would.

As you guys can see I am not a fan of Jerry Springer type drama that runs amok in these forums when someone thinks they have the dirt on someone else. In this case we can clearly see that it was a deliberate attack on Clint and a despicable one at that.

Thanks guys for understanding and allowing me to slow the roll until something could be said officially.

mudder500

Umm I see now. Must of been inside job