Hey man,

Watcha doing this weekend anytime Fri-Monday? I could use some help probably. Maybe pull the head on my truck.


Do you know anybody with and engine hoist who might let me borrow it. sqrll$$ has one, but doesn't want it back and it doesn't fold up. [duhhh]

I'm free Thursday, Friday and Saturday for most of the morning. I do have an engine hoist I can let you borrow.

I'll be checking measurements, lash, and pushrods early on Friday if you wanna meet up for breakfast. Should know after a couple of hours if the head will have to come off. Then I definately could use that engine hoist on Saturday.

Let me know if I can buy you breakfast at Randy's Friday morning.

I'll be checking measurements, lash, and pushrods early on Friday if you wanna meet up for breakfast. Should know after a couple of hours if the head will have to come off. Then I definately could use that engine hoist on Saturday.

Let me know if I can buy you breakfast at Randy's Friday morning.

How earlier on Friday cause I got to run to Siler City with a load of cows. I could be back in Lexington by about 9:30.

I was just offerin breakfast. If your gonna be hungry about 9:30 or 10am, we'll hit up Randy's.

10 4, sounds good. I'll try to call you sometime tonight.

Hey Keegan, any news on the condition of the engine in your truck yet??Thanks!

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John_P

Hey man,

Maybe pull the head on my truck.



What the heck are you doing to your poor truck?

Are you still going to be able to make it to MATR Keegan?

10 4, sounds good. I'll try to call you sometime tonight.

I'm working 12+ hours today and won't be off until after 10PM.

What the heck are you doing to your poor truck?

I abused it and now it seems to be pouting. [duhhh][laugh]

Are you still going to be able to make it to MATR Keegan?

I'll be at MATR, but the Big Rig might not be. :(

I'll wait until the morning then.

Since Keegan is busy with honey do stuff right now probably I'll post the update for everyone, I'm sure they will be followed by pictures. We both accomplished to pull the head on his truck this afternoon. The MLS gasket was fried between #3 and #4. There is VERY light damage to #4 on the outer edge but shouldn't affect it in any way. Ohh and Keegan, if your missing a 13mm GearWrench I got it [laugh]

Since Keegan is busy with honey do stuff right now probably I'll post the update for everyone, I'm sure they will be followed by pictures. We both accomplished to pull the head on his truck this afternoon. The MLS gasket was fried between #3 and #4. There is VERY light damage to #4 on the outer edge but shouldn't affect it in any way. Ohh and Keegan, if your missing a 13mm GearWrench I got it [laugh]
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Adam:

Thanks for the update buddy,.....But DARN I hate to hear that for Keegan!:(
But you guys both know that "I have been there and done that" a few times!
Did you guys see any other damage in there Adam?? How did the cylinder walls look?

Thanks!

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John_P

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Adam:

Thanks for the update buddy,.....But DARN I hate to hear that for Keegan!:(
But you guys both know that "I have been there and done that" a few times!
Did you guys see any other damage in there Adam?? How did the cylinder walls look?

Thanks!

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John_P

John, everthing else appeared fine, cylinders walls looked excellent. So when I saw the head gasket I thought about to the August issue of Diesel Power where Scott Zaffram killed his headgaset in the same fashion Keegan's kicked the bucket. I keep trying to talk him into o-ringing while the head is off :cool:

John, everthing else appeared fine, cylinders walls looked excellent. So when I saw the head gasket I thought about to the August issue of Diesel Power where Scott Zaffram killed his headgaset in the same fashion Keegan's kicked the bucket. I keep trying to talk him into o-ringing while the head is off :cool:
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Thanks for your reply Adam! Glad to hear everything else looked good to you guys!

Yes, I agree, the o-rings or firerings are the way to go IMHO. Especially since Keegan is getting more involved in the drag racing and sled pulling. Water injection might not be a bad idea either!

John, Looks like Johnner called it right. He told me at the dyno event he thought the gasket popped between cylinders... He's a smart one.

Yup, soon as we got the head off you could tell the gasket was on its last leg since they layers were coming apart as well.

John, Looks like Johnner called it right. He told me at the dyno event he thought the gasket popped between cylinders... He's a smart one.
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Yeah Mike, Johnner is very good at diagnosing what happens to these trucks.

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Water injection might not be a bad idea either!

I have to agree with you on that one!!

So when I saw the head gasket I thought about to the August issue of Diesel Power where Scott Zaffram killed his headgaset in the same fashion Keegan's kicked the bucket. :cool:

Elaborate please, how much boost, egt's etc. etc. Did Keegan use the Cometic gasket or which one?

Phil, You heading down to Jacksonville tomorrow?

Sorry for the multiple posts, I'm a [dummy][dummy] and have not figured out the multiple quotes thing yet!![laugh][laugh]

Phil, You heading down to Jacksonville tomorrow?

To short a notice, to much truck work, a turbo for one guy, injectors for another and a Furd that needs those front bushings.

Sorry for the multiple posts, I'm a and have not figured out the multiple quotes thing yet!!

Copy the words you want, hit the quote icon and paste between the ]---[ ignore the dashes...:)

Elaborate please, how much boost, egt's etc. etc. Did Keegan use the Cometic gasket or which one?
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Phil:

Keegan had the stock headgasket in there, but had put 12mm studs in sometime last year as I remember. I can't tell you about his boost, EGTS, etc.
though. He will have to get in here and post on that.

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John

Ok, my correction, stock head gasket and I think he said MLS gasket on order.

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Phil:

Keegan had the stock headgasket in there, but had put 12mm studs in sometime last year as I remember. I can't tell you about his boost, EGTS, etc.
though. He will have to get in here and post on that.

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John

Oh, it was a stocker.....that figures, my Scheid gasket is working GREAT

Stock gasket on a CR is a MLS style gasket.

Stock gasket on a CR is a MLS style gasket.

Thanks Mike, shows still how much I got to learn about the CR trucks [duhhh]

Shoot Adam. You know a lot about these trucks already. Since you already know what MLS means you're a head of a bunch of people on these diesel sites![laugh]

Ok time for my stupid question, what is the difference between fire rings and orings. I know what orings are but not the other.

Hey Keegan, I have that cherry picker here off Beck's Church Rd. if you need it. Give me a call. If you come help me load it, I will bring it to you to use.

Do tell on what happened to cause this so that the rest of us don't have the same misfortune. Hate to see anyones truck busted.

Ok time for my stupid question, what is the difference between fire rings and orings. I know what orings are but not the other.
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74dart:

Hey buddy, it is not a stupid question.;) Let me see if I can explain it to you here where you will understand it.

Firerings are like o-rings but they are "pre-formed" and usually thicker in diameter. As I recall they range in size from .100 to .120 and I believe some are thicker than that too. You can either cut a groove in the cylinder head for a firering, but IMO, the better way to go, is to cut the grooves into the block right around the top of each cylinder. The firering then takes the place of the metal ring in the cylinder head gasket to seal the head.

Hope that was clear for you 74dart,......if not let me know.

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John_P

To add to what John posted, if you get the new style Scheid gasket like I did they don't cut the block or head for the fire rings.

To add to what John posted, if you get the new style Scheid gasket like I did they don't cut the block or head for the fire rings.

Are the rings incorprated into the gaskett then?

No, you set the gasket down, then place the rings inside the gasket.

And you dont have to cut the head. I might have to look into that when it is time to change mine again.

Figured I would post an update. Keegans computer crashed so he hasn't been able to be on here and post pictures. The head should be on its way to Tim's to get it o-ringed and resurfaced. He is also going to check the valves to make sure everything is ok. We both are keeping our fingers crossed that we will have everything back together for Mopars!

Good luck, Keegan!

If you drive that head up there yourself be real careful through Lawenceville Va. They like to catch speeders. Don't ask how I know this.[nonono]

I hope it works out so at least you can drive it down to the Rock.

The plan is to pick the head up from Tim at Creswell on Saturday, that should give us more than enough time to get her put back together and try her out. Rodney, how is the work on your truck coming along? :cool:

Well it is coming along o.k. Hopefully I will be driving it down to Creswell this weekend. If not I will drive a gasser down there. Either way I will be there.