gladesauce7

This summer my dad and i are going to have a little show down at the truck pulls! He has after market injectors on the way along with a after market turbo we pulled the tranny on it and my dad is going through it, i believe he is putting after market clutches and a manual valve body along with a torque convertor. He also already has the edge performance chip but its only like the 3 stage one that doesn't have the buttons and stuff on it, and an after market exhaust manifold he also cut the the muffler out. 3.54 gears

My question is how can i beat him at the truck pulls!!
I have a 01 6spd that has 5inch open exhaust after market manifold, intake, and the big line fuel kit and the edge chip that has 5 stages not sure which model or anything. The injector pump went out of it about a month ago, im not sure why because my fuel pressure usually runs 6 to 10 unless its cold then it drops down to about 4 until it warms up so its just been sitting i'm wondering if there is any good injector pump tips! Like an after market injector pump and if i should put a different lift pump on it then stock. Any ways I'm kinda in a budget of 2,500 what could be some things i can bolt onto this truck? i drive it almost everyday with a 34 foot goose neck so i cant go to crazy. 35 psi for boost, 3.54 gears. Someone plz tell me the next step for some more performance!!!! So i can beat him!!!! Model numbers and web address would be helpful if you think of something.

strrew

First get a southbend clutch ($1000), cause anymore power and your goin to smoke the one you got. Then i would get some 275 Rv injectors ($270), and last stack a smarty controller on top( $650) he won't stand a chance then.

J7 Diesel

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ He needs a pump too! Industrial Injection has good hot rod vp 44 for around $1700 or so. Or stocker for around 1500 installed so... You do need a clutch for sure so hope this helps in your budget.
Jason

J Lent

If you are going to sled pull, you will need a Dual disc clutch. I recommend Southbend & you could expect to pay $1700. Then I would get a fuel system, I prefer Airdog & they can be had for $450. With the remainder of your cash, I would buy a Edge Drag comp used in the classifieds. If you could squeeze out a little more cash, the Quadzilla Adrenaline is going to be released soon & I would highly recommend this box over any other.

J7 Diesel

You do need a injector pump right?

strrew

sorry i thought the injector pump was over and above the 2500. he already has a big line kit, so just run a holley blue or black pump.

gladesauce7

"Hot Rod VP44 - Industrial Injection offers the Hot Rod VP44 fuel injection pump that can add an additional 100 HP to your 24 valve Cummins Diesel."

Thanks for the info its being a lot of help but when it says can add up to 100hp does anyone know if thats the mechanical side of it or is it just something that is programmed in that a chip can change because 700 dollars is a big difference? Well im pretty sure either way im going to go with the performance one i get my plow check tomorrow and I'm gonna try and get everything ordered saturday.
I found those injectors for 80 dollars each that reasonable?
What exactly is a smarty controller because i already have a edge performance chip that cost like 500 some dollars last August. Not sure if its the good one but it has like 5 bars on it with the up and down arrows to lvl it up n down. Theres just so much crap out there for chips i swear its just impossible to figure out whats what and which ones better!
My clutch is solid right now so i think i might just pull with it once or twice cause i dont have money for one yet. My dad got a inline pump that comes with a regulator and a return line that returns into the fill tube. So im gonna order that setup for my truck whats safest fuel pressure to run? My dad said he runs his at 8-12

Tate

Skip the hot rod pump, get a standard SO (standard output, 235hp) pump. If you don't plan on going past 500 hp, get the HO pump. You will lose some bottom end with the SO pump, but you will have much more top end potential. The HRVP has some undesirable affects (not all pumps, but a good number of them) like poor erratic idle, surging, not fully defueling, etc. You don't get your moneys worth for the extra $700 IMO.

You Edge sounds like a comp box. Thats the 120hp horse box, so it should be decent. You can get it upgraded to the Hot version, or the Drag Comp version, if you will. Removes the top end defueling. If you don't plan on running past 2700 RPM, not needed. But if you do, its a worth while upgrade. Since you already have the Comp, I'd skip getting the Smarty. Its $650, and it won't gain you any more peak HP, you'll get some bottom end, and wind up with a code reader/tire size correction, but its not worth the $650 IMO.

Injectors, RV275's are cheap (around $300 for the set), or you can get some nozzles, which can range from 60-150 hp, although you probably won't see the advertised claims. Industrial Injection, DDP and Formula 1 are probably the highest end injectors right now. You could probably get away with a set of their entry level injectors on the stock turbo, but call them and talk to them. This can range from about $250 for nozzles up to around $1200 for massive sticks from DDP and F1.

If you plan on running sticks and and comp on kill, chances are you're gonna need a clutch. South Bend seems to be the best right now. If you want to run power and pull, a dual disc is gonna be your best friend. They will handle slippage, and will hold whatever you want to throw at them. Single discs will hold decent power, but can be grabby, so backing trailers in can be a pain. Dual discs shift slower, so you have a toss up here.

So I'd say, get an HO or SO VP, looking around $1100. F1 Mach 1.6 injectors, $700, then spend the rest on the clutch. You still need to upgrade your fuel system though, so you'll have to balance it all out. Get a Holley pump, run it between 15-20 psi, and you should be good to go. Those are somewhere in the $150-250 range I think.

If your VP is on top of the $2500, I'd spring for the dual disc clutch. Will take everything you can throw at it.

olddodgetruck

tate hit the nail on the head. get the so injection pump, some injectors or tips. and the lift pump kit your father has most likely the walbro 392, and spend the rest on a clutch. id leave your chip alone. its not the latest and greatest in boxes but it will hold its own. i have a smarty stacked with my edge comp and its not that great. $650 could of been spent better

gladesauce7

Thanks for the help tate im getting those mach 1.6 along with just the regular ho vp44 you guys seem pretty confident about all of this so it saves me a bunch of trial and error!!!! Thanks for you time! Ill let ya know if i have any trouble.

sledneck1

The smarty is better with a fuel only box where you can use the timing settings but yes $650 is a pile of dough when you could get an Adrenaline box for around that!

Diesel Doc

you will DEFINATELLY need a clutch!! especially with 3.54 gears i have seen bone stock trucks smoke the clutch. with that setup

jjb3006

I know of a couple of people who have got those Hot Rod VP's and haven't seen and increase of more then maybe 50 Hp and that was on a good day. I know that is what they advertise that you will get, but i just have not heard of anyone getting that large of an increase.

JIT

1) CLUTCH
2) SO Injector Pump
3) ADRENALINE

The Adrenaline fueling that SO Pump will do wonders for you. The Clutch will Put it on the ground. Then you can sell the Edge and recoup some of your $ and look into a Turbo!

Add a lift pump to keep that Injector Pump alive!

Mike Holmen

SO VP 027 injection pump. You need a more fuel delivered to VP. You need around 10+psi of fuel pressure for decent power and reliablity. Is your edge comp box have a wire connected to the VP? Is it making a decent connection with the pump. What kind of boost numbers you pulling? A slightly bigger turbo will help top end. The new sticks and a SO pump will pick up you power and you'll still have money left over. Is your current clutch set-up slipping?