View Full Version : Mopar filter with DTT Valve Body?
Dieselhed
03-14-2009, 04:41 PM
Just want to make sure I can use a factory Mopar filter with a DTT vavle body. Changed fluid and filter and the filter on the DTT valve body does not look like the Mopar one I bought. It has an aluminum and plastic body around it and only uses 2 screws.
Kenny D
03-14-2009, 04:58 PM
Do you have a deep pan somtimes they will give you a drop filter. Also i know with my DTT trasn they told me to adjust my bands evrery sevice Did they tell you this??
Dieselhed
03-14-2009, 05:10 PM
I've got the standard Mag-Hytec pan. I think it adds .5 quart over stock. The filter John (Floor It Diesel) used is just the filter media itself with no external covering on it. I put bolted the Mopar one up and it fits right. Just uses two screws where as the one John used has 3 in it. Did DTT happen to tell you to use the Dodge Service Manual specs when adjusting your bands or do they have other specs? Thanks
TexasCTD
03-14-2009, 05:31 PM
I use the mopar one with covering. No problems for 100K miles.....before and after DTT build.
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Danderson
03-14-2009, 06:39 PM
Call Mag-Hytec and they will ship to you cheap, the open design filters and new gaskets. The gaskets and filters were approx. $3.00 ea. when I sold the '99 two years ago.
omaharam
03-14-2009, 06:43 PM
DO NOT run that filter. You need to tell them your truck is a 1996 and use that filter. I learned the hard way. The extra line pressure will suck the guts our of the cased filter and up into the VB. It destroyed my tranny within 2 weeks.
Dieselhed
03-14-2009, 07:29 PM
Great. Already took it out of the package. I'll run up to Napa tomorrow and grab the open style. Glad I asked. Thanks
TexasCTD
03-15-2009, 01:50 AM
DO NOT run that filter. You need to tell them your truck is a 1996 and use that filter. I learned the hard way. The extra line pressure will suck the guts our of the cased filter and up into the VB. It destroyed my tranny within 2 weeks.
First I have heard of anybody having any trouble with the cased filter. That is all I have ever run on mine.......in 106K miles, before and after my DTT build 22K miles ago. My 30 year transmission builder could have put either one on........and used the one I brought him, the encased one and said it didn't matter. Not arguing...........im just saying......I've never heard of an issue on them.
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annabelle
03-15-2009, 03:06 AM
I too have a modded tranny with additional line pressure. It's not a DTT, but I was not warned about not using a cased filter, and the guy who built my tranny knows trannies. It was also built at my B-I-L's former shop and he is always calling me to make sure I'm happy with the work(he never has mentioned not using cased filters either). It has 30,000 miles and two fluid changes with new filters on the rebuild.
RyeThomas
03-15-2009, 03:47 AM
Tim told me to use the old style filter, not the new one.
Dieselhed
03-15-2009, 06:28 AM
Which is what I'm gonna do. Thanks for the input fellas.
Kenny D
03-15-2009, 08:24 AM
I've got the standard Mag-Hytec pan. I think it adds .5 quart over stock. The filter John (Floor It Diesel) used is just the filter media itself with no external covering on it. I put bolted the Mopar one up and it fits right. Just uses two screws where as the one John used has 3 in it. Did DTT happen to tell you to use the Dodge Service Manual specs when adjusting your bands or do they have other specs? Thanks
Well to be honest im not sure if there the same or not but he told me to do it evry 20,000 miles thoght that was allot ??? Did you get any guidlines like this
And it kinda wories me cuase when there adjusted you can tell [dummy]
Dieselhed
03-15-2009, 10:13 AM
I'm sure they were adjusted when the trans was built. That was 25,000 miles ago and it shifts like the day it was built. I'm not gonna mess with it.
The reason they tell you to use the old style open filter is because they flow better. That also means they filter less. So by the same token, that could theoretically at least, contribute the closed filter "sucking" problem, but I have not heard of this until now either. Neither of them filter very well, for the intended purpose of removing contaminant from the fluid. Basically it's a choice of crappy or really crappy filtering.
Kenny D
03-15-2009, 11:15 AM
I'm sure they were adjusted when the trans was built. That was 25,000 miles ago and it shifts like the day it was built. I'm not gonna mess with it.
SO THEY DIDNT TELL YOU TO DO THIS ??? MY guy Richard in Miami told me how important it was.
annabelle
03-15-2009, 11:18 AM
I've been told to change the fluid and filter every 20,000-30,000 miles. I changed mine about 1000 miles after the rebuild and then 20,000 miles later.
Kenny D
03-15-2009, 02:43 PM
yea but what about the band adjustment
annabelle
03-15-2009, 06:29 PM
Leave it alone.
Dieselhed
03-15-2009, 07:49 PM
My builder told me every 25,000. I did it today at 25,221 and the fluid was a little dark. I talked to Shanti at DTT and she told me to change fluid and filter every 15,000. Use the cheaper fluid and change more often approach.
Band adjustment was not necessary as my trans shifts like the day it was built. Shifts really smooth with the new fluid in it. If shifting changes I'll adjust the bands next time I change fluid.
By the way I drained the converter as well and put back 15 quarts fluid with 15 oz. of lubegard. Did the T-Case while I was in there as well.
The cheapest ATF+4 I've found is $3.77 at Walmart right now. With a deep pan and 15k change intervals I wouldn't characterize that as cheap by any stretch. :o
Kenny D
03-15-2009, 08:06 PM
i have used that lubegaurd in my old 727 in my GTX how do you liek it in the diesel did you notice any difrence
Dieselhed
03-16-2009, 07:05 AM
The cheapest ATF+4 I've found is $3.77 at Walmart right now. With a deep pan and 15k change intervals I wouldn't characterize that as cheap by any stretch. :o
I didn't use atf + 4. I used the Walmart Supertech Dex III and put the appropriate amount of Lubegard in it. $9.77 a gallon for the fluid (4 gal.) $10.49 for 2 bottles of Lubegard and $7.99 for the filter. $68 bucks for materials and I did the labor. That is cheap. I'll be doing it every 15-20,000 miles from now on.
And yes, I did notice the shifting seems to be smoother. Down shifting not as harsh either. I'm happy with it.
Yes - definitely change it quite frequently if you're doing that!
I prefer "firm" shifting.
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