MB regulations
09-04-2003, 10:35 PM
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Ask your question with a few more details, I can't make much sense of it at this point.....
Mercedes Benz is always on the leading edge of developing emissions equipment.
Mercedes Benz is always on the leading edge of developing emissions equipment.
09-04-2003, 10:46 PM
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[quote author=Lightman link=board=8;threadid=19176;start=0#msg180825 date=1062732922]
Mercedes Benz is always on the leading edge of developing emissions equipment.
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That's what I thought?
Mercedes Benz is always on the leading edge of developing emissions equipment.
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That's what I thought?
09-05-2003, 06:17 PM
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AFAIK (I think I read something somewhere) there were some problems with Mercedes vehicles imported in the US that were European versions that didn't comply with US emmissions. This was due to the different fuel standards.
Just some rumour I think that I seem to remember....
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Just some rumour I think that I seem to remember....
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09-06-2003, 03:26 PM
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Well i remembered reading something on this board i think about them having a contract with the US until like 2009 or something. for not having to meet the US emmisions. ANd i know 4 a fact that they dont but the debate was in class about why they didnt and i thought id see if i could find an article about it
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09-06-2003, 03:32 PM
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09-06-2003, 06:03 PM
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All I can say is that when they start putting MB diesels in the Ram, I'll switch brands. I hope it is no time soon. I hope for the rest of you that buy them that their diesel is better than their cars were. I've had two cars and will never have another.
09-06-2003, 07:09 PM
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[quote author=Dieseldude4x4 link=board=8;threadid=19176;start=0#msg181433 date=1062889390]
All I can say is that when they start putting MB diesels in the Ram, I'll switch brands. I hope it is no time soon. I hope for the rest of you that buy them that their diesel is better than their cars were. I've had two cars and will never have another.
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I think MD diesel cars are fine. I know some people who do not like them because some of the diesels can be hard starting in the winter. The one thing I don't like is they can look good on the outside and yet be so rusted underneath that they are not safe to drive. I have seen many like that in Michigan.
All I can say is that when they start putting MB diesels in the Ram, I'll switch brands. I hope it is no time soon. I hope for the rest of you that buy them that their diesel is better than their cars were. I've had two cars and will never have another.
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I think MD diesel cars are fine. I know some people who do not like them because some of the diesels can be hard starting in the winter. The one thing I don't like is they can look good on the outside and yet be so rusted underneath that they are not safe to drive. I have seen many like that in Michigan.
09-06-2003, 10:14 PM
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In my experience with two mb diesels, they are flawless, and incredibly refined. Granted, I'm not talking about 80's models, but my '99 is incredible. The smoothness and noise levels are unmatched still today... Also, I still see a few 300d's every day...they are still kicking!
As for emissions, most euro spec diesels won't meet our standards, when run on OUR fuel. The eurodiesel has much lower sulfur and aromatic content, causing much less emissions. When 2006 and Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) arrive, we will likely have an influx of more cool diesel vehicles!!
As for emissions, most euro spec diesels won't meet our standards, when run on OUR fuel. The eurodiesel has much lower sulfur and aromatic content, causing much less emissions. When 2006 and Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) arrive, we will likely have an influx of more cool diesel vehicles!!
09-07-2003, 06:23 AM
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The engines in the two I had were real screamers but the cars fell apart around them.
In my simple opinion, I believe that when the Ram goes to MB, the sales will drop off.
In my simple opinion, I believe that when the Ram goes to MB, the sales will drop off.
09-07-2003, 10:04 AM
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Sure will be interesting to see what happens if it does. I'd venture to say MB has a more widespread approval than Cummins(think big picture, not just the truck world), and probably has the reputation for building the best diesels out there. The rest of the car thats a different story....kinda like the dodge vs cummins issue.... 
09-07-2003, 10:24 AM
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Dont know if I should be saying this or not, since it will stir the rumor pot. But, I have word from a very reliable source from Freightliner that Cummins is expected to get out of the Class 8 engine business completely in the near future. Now, as far as I know, this is only the bigger line of engines. ISX, ISL, ISM etc. Think about it, the Cummins engine is not available in any new Freightliner, or there medium duty truck line. Only Custom Chassis vehicles such as RV's or firetrucks. Paccar's major supplier is Caterpillar. Mack has there own line. That leaves Volvo (which is owned by Mack) and International. Since Volvo and International hold a very small portion of the market, that leaves Cummins with a very small portion of the market.
The MB engines that are currently out for Medium and Heavy Duty trucks are nothing to brush off. They are becoming quite popular.
The MB engines that are currently out for Medium and Heavy Duty trucks are nothing to brush off. They are becoming quite popular.