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Dodgezilla
10-26-2002, 06:46 AM
I came out to go to work and someone had stolen both of my American flags off of Dodgezilla!! Man that makes me mad. They were brand new and weren't the cheap ones. Now I'm keeping my eyes open for someone in the hood with them and then there will be he!! to pay!!! >:( :-X >:( ARGHH!!!

Redleg
10-26-2002, 08:16 AM
Sounds like you need to research the thread on static shock ;)

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-26-2002, 09:04 AM
A friend of mine found a great way to use an old electric fence unit with his car. He isolated the electrical system with cutoff switches first then hooked it up to the body of his car. He says those blood curdling screams at 2 am are music to his ears! especially on rainy nights!

Mule Skinner
10-26-2002, 09:15 AM
Great idea I gotta try it [laugh] [laugh]

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-26-2002, 09:32 AM
Warning on that Idea! I have no doubt it would be considered illegal and you could very easily end up with a law suit. Some greedy lawyer will claim you violated the criminals right to steal your stereo and hence ruined his chance to make a living!. Stupid...of course but not unlikely. Victims have no rights.

RATTLINRAM
10-26-2002, 10:04 AM
<br>Warning on that Idea! I have no doubt it would be considered illegal and you could very easily end up with a law suit. Some greedy lawyer will claim you violated the criminals right to steal your stereo and hence ruined his chance to make a living!. Stupid...of course but not unlikely. Victims have no rights. <br><br>Good point Top,<br> However, if a fella was to have a small flowerbed in front of where he parked,, and he had installed an electric fence to keep the wabbits from eating his petunias,,, and had accidently parked too close to it,, thus making contact with the fence unknowingly,,,, it would just be an innocent coincident,,,, Right?? ::)<br><br>,,,Of course,,,,, a simular thing could happen if you had a post with a 110v outlet, (to plug your truck into when it's cold outside), that unknowingly had a bare spot on the wire insulation! :o ... ::) ;D<br>

doomgaze
10-26-2002, 11:17 AM
Warning on that Idea! I have no doubt it would be considered illegal and you could very easily end up with a law suit. Some greedy lawyer will claim you violated the criminals right to steal your stereo and hence ruined his chance to make a living!. Stupid...of course but not unlikely. Victims have no rights.


I'm not sure how our whacked out legal system works anymore, but theoretically, couldn't you put a sign up next to an electricfied truck that warns of the impending danger? And if someone went ahead and touched it, it'd be their own fault.

95ramtough
10-26-2002, 12:49 PM
hahaha. Man I love this site! I think that I would be stupid and go to get in my truck and shock myself.. I know I would.. It would teach the dogs to **** on your tires.

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-26-2002, 12:49 PM
The alleged criminal would claim he didn't see the sign and you would still be liable. I saw someone get sued because a burglar climbed over his fence into the backyard and got bit by the dog while jimmying open a window. He won in court and the homeowner had to make restitution. <br> We have the best legal system in the world but the liberals have got it all geared toward protecting the criminals rights. Somehow this foolishness needs to be changed.<br> Rattlin I am not versed on every states laws but in most places I believe anything that causes harm to a criminal on your property, you are liable!. Now if he has a gun in his hand and is threatening your life, you can use force. but even then you will be arrested till they prove you were acting in self defense. Which by the way seems to have different levels to suit the level of threat.<br> The old saying &quot;shoot em and drag them inside&quot; has no merit what so ever. He better not be moved from where he lands, and he dang well better have a deadly weapon in his hand when they do the investigation. Crazy world we live in, but it is all we have!.

Redleg
10-26-2002, 01:44 PM
Better put a cattle prod in his hand and say he was gonna shock you first, but they're right. You can't hang horse thiefs anymore. Anything that may cause death or injury is considered lethal force. You can't use lethal force for property crimes, just dangerous felonies. On the good side, it seems to me (my opinion) that society is leaning towards home invasion as being considered a dangerous crime these days, as opposed to a breaking and entering. It all depends on who gets their point across to the jury better.<br><br>Top, ever try to hook up a sling-load before grounding the cargo hook? By the way .... how come your here instead of spending time with the little guy?

4 Tons-o-Fun
10-26-2002, 02:36 PM
I had thought through this once before also - had it all figured out using an ignition coil - then it hit me - what if some kid accidentally touched it............... Sorry about your flags, glad it wasn't your truck :(

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-26-2002, 02:45 PM
[quote author=RTO .<br><br>Top, ever try to hook up a sling-load before grounding the cargo hook? By the way .... how come your here instead of spending time with the little guy?<br><br>That is a great way to create your own Lightning :o [laugh] Little one is down for nap time he will probably be up till 2 am now ;D

Superduty12v
10-26-2002, 03:01 PM
A burglar broke into a house here, through the attic. He was walking around the attic and he fell through the ceiling. He sued the people who owned the house he broke into for having &quot;unsafe ceiling support&quot; or something along those lines....and won.

TPilaske
10-26-2002, 03:10 PM
Any judge or jury that awards any criminal ANYTHING should be shot on the spot. No questions asked. Any moron that let any of that even get to the point of being in court should be shot. I think some of the third world countries have a better justice system than we do here. Thief? Hand chopped off. End of story. Etc, Etc, Etc.... have a nice day! ;D<br><br>Tony

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-26-2002, 03:50 PM
<br>A burglar broke into a house here, through the attic. He was walking around the attic and he fell through the ceiling. He sued the people who owned the house he broke into for having &quot;unsafe ceiling support&quot; or something along those lines....and won.<br> William Shakespeare said it all &quot;kill all the lawyers&quot;. Sad you need an attorney when anything happens just because there is another one trying to take you for everything even if it isn't your fault!.<br> You know the difference between a catfish and an attorney?............ One is a dirty stinking bottom feeder, and the other is a fish! [laugh] [laugh]

chuck3
10-26-2002, 04:00 PM
<br>Any judge or jury that awards any criminal ANYTHING should be shot on the spot. No questions asked. Any moron that let any of that even get to the point of being in court should be shot. I think some of the third world countries have a better justice system than we do here. Thief? Hand chopped off. End of story. Etc, Etc, Etc.... have a nice day! ;D<br><br>Tony<br><br><br><br><br> I agree.

10-26-2002, 06:35 PM
I have the perfect solution to this problem, it goes a lil like this. A very well known National jewelry store here was having break-ins and losing alot of product. There is a company that makes a smoke generator tied to the burglar alarm. When I viewed the playback of the robbery on the time lapse recorder tied to the many story cameras I cried because I was laughing so dang hard. The alarm went off and here came the smoke, poor guy could not even find the door in time before the police showed up. [laugh] BUSTED

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-26-2002, 06:56 PM
<br>I have the perfect solution to this problem, it goes a lil like this. A very well known National jewelry store here was having break-ins and losing alot of product. There is a company that makes a smoke generator tied to the burglar alarm. When I viewed the playback of the robbery on the time lapse recorder tied to the many story cameras I cried because I was laughing so dang hard. The alarm went off and here came the smoke, poor guy could not even find the door in time before the police showed up. [laugh] BUSTED<br> That's great inside! unfortunately outside it wouldn't help much. I had tear gas bottles in my safe in fragile glass tubes, designed to break if the safe is tampered with forcibly. ATF made me remove them <br> Probably for the best, I knew one day I would rupture one by accident :'( :'(

TPilaske
10-26-2002, 08:05 PM
Does the ATF hang out at your house on a regular basis? [laugh]

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-26-2002, 08:32 PM
<br>Does the ATF hang out at your house on a regular basis? [laugh]<br> [laugh] [laugh] Good question Tony! No would be the answer. I am a Federally Licensed Gunsmith and have done custom work for many agents and Law Enforcement Indidviduals. The Law does allow the ATF to search my business premises anytime they want. Not a problem for me as I love my freedom, so would not do anything Illegal intentionally. However I won't say I haven't bent the rules of law from time to time over the years, mostly from just being a normal red blooded boy as we all do.<br> Artificial Intelligence is No match for Natural Stupidity! ;D

Outrider
10-26-2002, 09:29 PM
Still makes me believe in a good well trained dog preferd with with wolf or other large mix.Would like that person to try it here at my place. [laugh] ;D As to when I used to work he stayed in my KW or the work yard till my boss got bit. ;D Then the secutary keep him under her desk.

Haulin_in_Dixie
10-27-2002, 04:13 AM
Since when is an electric fence or an ignition coil lethal ? At 10 my daughter grabbed an electric fence at a friends house. Never did it again ;D Years ago, Model T coils were used for the alarm purpose. See you did not need the siren, you just hear the screams [eyecrazy] Seriously, I wonder how the ECM would like the high voltage discharge?

Redleg
10-27-2002, 08:04 AM
<br>Since when is an electric fence or an ignition coil lethal ? At 10 my daughter grabbed an electric fence at a friends house. Never did it again ;D Years ago, Model T coils were used for the alarm purpose. See you did not need the siren, you just hear the screams [eyecrazy] Seriously, I wonder how the ECM would like the high voltage discharge?<br><br><br>Most of us could take the shock, a reasonably intelligent thief could laugh and easily disable it (again assuming low voltage such as electric fence). With my luck, I would get the bad guy that had the heart condition that lead him into poverty in the first place. He was just steeling to feed his 12 kids and this was his first time (read first time CAUGHT!). I would be sued and support his habits for the rest of my life, and prosecuted for assault with intent to commit great bodily harm, and felony rigging of a booby trap [eyecrazy] :'(

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-27-2002, 09:25 AM
That's it in a nut shell RTO. He would have nightmares from the dastardly ordeal and not be able to work because of his nerves. And some bonehead of a shrink will list him disabled because of your effort to protect yourself. Thus leaving you to pay for his new entertainment center and put his eleven children through college. While he lays on the couch watching Jerry Springer [eyecrazy]

RATTLINRAM
10-27-2002, 09:32 AM
Well then,,,,,,,, I guess it's back to the old &quot;Shoot em,,, throw em in the back of the truck,,,, and take a trip to the river with a few cinderblocks&quot; Just tell the nieghbors you were lighting off a few firecrakers last night! [laugh]

10-27-2002, 09:37 AM
<br> Well then,,,,,,,, I guess it's back to the old &quot;Shoot em,,, throw em in the back of the truck,,,, and take a trip to the river with a few cinderblocks&quot; Just tell the nieghbors you were lighting off a few firecrakers last night! [laugh] <br><br><br>Yup, bullet cost 50 cents.... [laugh]

Redleg
10-27-2002, 09:52 AM
A nice &quot;drop-gun&quot; can help in a pinch. But you didn't here that here ;) 8)

Lary Ellis (Top)
10-27-2002, 11:39 AM
Points to the drawer full of small inexpensive parts guns. Hey how's a guy supposed to know it doesn't function when it is pointed at them? ;D

Dieseldude4x4
10-27-2002, 01:19 PM
I think the &quot;pre-meditated&quot; term may come in here as far as the electrical shock goes even though I agree with it 110%.<br><br>A friend of mine had a good trick in his safe one time. He had a Browning safe with a LARGE amount of guns in it. I wish he hadn't showed them to me but anyway, he kept two one pound butter bowls half full of black powder. The butter bowls had saran wrap on the tops so I asked him what that was for. He said the only way to get into the safe was with a torch. Well, he may not have his guns any longer but the burglar sure wouldn't have them guess what, and no law suits due to no evidence. Can you say Kaboooooooommmmm!<br><br>Not saying that this is a good idea but sounded good at the time.

Scotty
10-27-2002, 01:29 PM
Push Rod has some of that electric fence equipment for me. ;D<br>My neighbors always want to use my yard for a toilet.<br>Its time to put some spark in their life. [laugh]

Redleg
10-27-2002, 01:36 PM
<br>I think the &quot;pre-meditated&quot; term may come in here as far as the electrical shock goes even though I agree with it 110%.<br><br>A friend of mine had a good trick in his safe one time. He had a Browning safe with a LARGE amount of guns in it. I wish he hadn't showed them to me but anyway, he kept two one pound butter bowls half full of black powder. The butter bowls had saran wrap on the tops so I asked him what that was for. He said the only way to get into the safe was with a torch. Well, he may not have his guns any longer but the burglar sure wouldn't have them guess what, and no law suits due to no evidence. Can you say Kaboooooooommmmm!<br><br>Not saying that this is a good idea but sounded good at the time.<br><br><br>Wouldn't try that one. We get back to the static electricty issue. A lot of guys have died or maimed themselves screwing caps on pipe bombs when the static can set them off.

DPG
10-27-2002, 02:04 PM
[quote author=Scotty My neighbors always want to use my yard for a toilet.<br><br>What kind of people do you have for neighbors???????

Dieseldude4x4
10-27-2002, 02:09 PM
Yep, what he said.

cr1998
10-28-2002, 10:36 AM
<br>Push Rod has some of that electric fence equipment for me. ;D<br>My neighbors always want to use my yard for a toilet.<br>Its time to put some spark in their life. [laugh]<br><br><br>Turn the Penguins loose on em Scotty. [laugh]

nogas
10-30-2002, 01:22 PM
My neighbor had an electrical alarm that would knock the sh_t out of you if you touched his truck. It ended up shocking some old man in a parking lot that had bumped his truck. I don't remember what the actual charges where that was imposed on my neighbor, but I remember it was quit heavy.<br><br>Ron

BigBlue
10-30-2002, 05:12 PM
Let me say this, if you are going to try and steal my truck from my house, then by all means, try. Not only will it wake my parents up, it will wake up both dogs, me, and the neighborhood. And when I hear it fire up and I'm not the one doing it, you can guarantee I'm coming out there with a 12 ga. shotgun. I'll blow all four tires before I'll let you take my truck. Then I'll shoot you in the knee so that way you won't be able to walk and I'll let you sit there till the cops arrive. I have a normal alarm and although it won't scare anyone off, it will alert me and I'll know something is wrong.<br><br>When my mom and dad first got married, they were living in a town house. Well, a few apartments down, there had been a robbery and someone was killed. My dad went and bought my mom a .38 pistol to protect herself if he wasn't home. When the officer came by to talk to my parents about the thing, my dad told him what he had done and why. The officer told my mom that if the guy does break in, shoot to kill, when you kill him, wipe the gun off and put it in his hands and then call him. There would be no questions about it.<br><br>A friend of mine was telling me this story. A while ago, a burglar had broken into this lady's house through the attic. He was walking around and fell through the attic onto a butcher's knife in the kitchen. He sued the lady for endangering his life or some crap and won. I love our &quot;justice&quot; system. ::)