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Old 11-09-2005, 12:23 PM
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Injector pump timing

I have a 1994 ctd 5 sp 4x4 std cab with 200,000 miles on it and the injector pump timing has never been fixed. I can't get a shop in town to time it for me because they say the pump can't change . they're wrong but I will do it my self when I get the tools. I would like some input on where to set it and how big of a project it is. I am pretty sure it needs set but my book only goes to 15* and I think people on here have set it around 17*. How do I know where to set it to get 17* and what does it help? thanks
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Typically it is set to between 15 and 16.5 unless you are doing some serious bombing.
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Well

http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1994/18-10-94a.htm

this is a webpage that tells you how to time ur truck as well as advantages and what not of timing. The main one that i can think of is fuel mileage. But it also helps you more efficiently burn your fuel and will reduce ur smoke as well. MY ram is on stock timing, looking to get it bumped up real soon Im losing power rapidly and if the overflow valve and new rubber lines dont fix it, new fuel filter dont fix it, or governer arm adjustment dont fix it... then i suppose its the timing..

I personally want 17 on mine.... but im not certain yet.....

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Thanks. I appreciate the advice but I still would like to know the easiest way to do it and if it it is really feasable. Thanks
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Now, I am just going by the book, not by real life. From the 96 Dodge service book, it is a 34 step process to do the work, with a bunch of special tools, dial indicators, and a bunch of care. I was interested in doing it myself until I read the book, it is beyond me, not really feasable at all. I am sure that there are others out there that could say it is easy, but I am sure that they will say that only after having done it a bunch of times. If you are gutsy and a good mechanic, go for it!!
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Originally Posted by Richard William
Thanks. I appreciate the advice but I still would like to know the easiest way to do it and if it it is really feasible. Thanks
There is no easiest way, there is only one way if you want it done correctly.
Instructions here http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1994/18-10-94a.htm
If you are only going to do it once the best bet is to have someone else do it as the tools cost more than most people charge to do it.
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If you have the tools, it is easy.

if not, well, it's gonna be a real PITA
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well, I am pretty handy with a wrench and would retime the pump but I am not convinced that the gains I would recieve would be worth it. The next problem I have run into is that I have yet to find a shop within 60 miles of me that will even look at the pump timing. All of them have told me that the pump is fine and that I need new injectors or something so taking it to a shop isn't an option for me. next is that there is two ways to correctly time the pump. one is with a special mic gauge that measures the pump lift at TDC and the other way is with a tool that tells you when the pump transfers fuel flow from one cylinder to the next. both provide the same results. Thanks and I look forward to hearing some feedback.
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I've re-timed mine 3 times (mostly playing around), and I thought it was easy, especially when compared to repairing KDP damage.

Where are you located? I'm sure someone on here w/ the tools would be happy to help you re-time it.
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Originally Posted by Richard William
well, I am pretty handy with a wrench and would retime the pump but I am not convinced that the gains I would recieve would be worth it. The next problem I have run into is that I have yet to find a shop within 60 miles of me that will even look at the pump timing. All of them have told me that the pump is fine and that I need new injectors or something so taking it to a shop isn't an option for me. next is that there is two ways to correctly time the pump. one is with a special mic gauge that measures the pump lift at TDC and the other way is with a tool that tells you when the pump transfers fuel flow from one cylinder to the next. both provide the same results. Thanks and I look forward to hearing some feedback.
I went to an authorized Cummins dealer and asked them to set my timing and they told me they would have to pull my pump off and send it out to someone to get timed. I walked right out of there.
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I am located in Montrose, Colorado. About 60 miles south of Grand Junction. That is what most of the shops told me but they just said that if the timing slipped it had to damage the pump. So the pump had to come off. I told them to go S+#T in their hat because I was going to have none of that.
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I am near salida and have the tools and have done several pm me if I can help.
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Anybody near Ventura, Calif? I would love to tweak the IP!!!!!!!
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I would be more than happy to tweak the pump a little. I am only 10 to 12 hours away just enough time to cycle you thermostant.
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Not to be a highjacker but is anyone close to Mobile Alabama that can time one aswell?


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