Cumminsdude

Hey, I was wondering how do you tell if a diesel is HO or not? I am looking at this 99 Dodge ext. cab short box 4x4 for $19,000. It doesnt have pw, pl, or ps. It has 43k miles. Do you guys think this is a good deal. The dealership says its a 24 valve but how do I know if its a HO or not? Thanks

Shovelhead

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Hey, I was wondering how do you tell if a diesel is HO or not?
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I always look for the bleached hair, hot pants, and halter top.

I don't think the HO was an option in '99.

Cumminsdude

Thats what I was thinking too. Thanks

Cumminsdude

Do you think thats a decent buy?

Shovelhead

Not sure. ???
Hopefully others will join in with Used Truck experience.
Try Kelly Blue Book and input the data to see what it says


There's a '99 4X4 Q-cab dually in the classifieds at the top of the page for less.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...php?siteid=342

Cumminsdude

Hey isnt the HO only available in the 6 speed manual or did they make it and automatic in 2002? Also how do you know other than that if its HO or not? Thanks

Cumminsdude

Is there a certain number in the VIN that would tell if its a HO or not?

phox_mulder

Pretty much, for 2002 at least, if it has a 6 speed it is a HO.
5 speed it is a SO.
Automatic, also a SO.

There might be a few out there that were special ordered SO's with the 6speed.

If you look at the Data plate on the front of the engine, it will tell you if it is HO or not, HP number I believe.


phox

Cumminsdude

See I am not really sure if its a 5 or 6 speed but I thought the HO was only on the 6 speed manual? whats SO? Did you know anything a number in the VIN?

phox_mulder

HO being High Output, SO is Standard Output.<br><br>Not sure on the VIN number, you might check dodgeram.org, if I remember right, they have a VIN decoding section.<br><br><br>phox

Cumminsdude

Thanks man, I found out it wasnt an HO :'( BUT thats good to know. Thanks again. By the way if anyone else is wondering how to decode the VIN here ya go:<br><br>http://www.dodgeram.org/tech/specs/VIN_decode.htm

dodgeram

who needs an ho .......my non ho does quite well with the comp and the 275's added IMO <br><br>

Push Rod

From 98.5 to 2000, the ETC Standard Output was the only engine available, no matter whether you had an auto, 5 speed or 6 speed.<br><br>In 2001 and 2002, if the truck has a 6 speed, its got the ETH High Output. If its an auto, or 5 speed, its an ETC SO.<br><br>As Derek said, the ETC SO is a doggoned good engine and doesn't require a hybrid VP44 to make excessively large gobs of HP. In my mind, the perfect truck is the 2000 and under ETC/6 speed combo.<br><br>2003 throws a curve at you. 6 speeds are again ETH HO only, but now you can get an auto tucked behind the ETH as well.<br><br>Rod

Cumminsdude

Now I understand, but what does ETH and ETC stand for? Thanks

Bart Timothy

ETH and ETC are the Dodge ordering codes for the different engines. DEE is the code for the six speed trans (look at the window sticker). Thus you get ETH/DEE or ETC/DEE designations which are sometimes mentioned.<br><br>The ETC/DEE has a smaller transmission imput shaft than the ETH/DEE.