LIke the title says just want to see if anybody has taken it and how it went and how stringent they r gona b.

-Chris

I just did it in my new diesel Golf- it's a visual inspection only, at least in Riverside Co. EGR, cat, aircleaner... yup, done, buh-bye.

I will be following this thread with interest

I just did it in my new diesel Golf- it's a visual inspection only, at least in Riverside Co. EGR, cat, aircleaner... yup, done, buh-bye.

Are you in riverside CA ??

My vehicle tags are due in March, Just says pay 795.00 no mention of smog.
I would be in trouble on the visual.

I just did it in my new diesel Golf- it's a visual inspection only, at least in Riverside Co. EGR, cat, aircleaner... yup, done, buh-bye. No snap test for smoke?

Pay $795 for an emissions test? I'm confused.

Pay $795 for an emissions test? I'm confused. That's just his registration fee here.:( He doesn't need the smog test yet. $795,hard to believe. Mine was $525 for an '07 2500.[verymad]

another reason to not live in CA[laugh][laugh][coffee]

Pay $795 for an emissions test? I'm confused.

Registration Fees.

another reason to not live in CA[laugh][laugh][coffee] My utilty bill averages $60.00 and I wear shorts ten months of the year here. There's tradeoffs everywhere. You live in a beautiful state. We were in Zion and Bryce late April. Just missed the snow. My father-in-law lives west of Cedar City on six acres. Blue,blue skies. Loved it!!

Pay $795 for an emissions test? I'm confused.

they got to make up for all that debt the govt run up [nonono]

Good greif. I thought my wifes Trailbalzer was obsured at $350 a year. No flipin way Ide pay that for reg. My truck is $80.50/year and in anouther year or two it will drop to $65 then a few years later it will drop to $35. You can have your 10 months of shorts for that price.

You don't need the smog test until the 5th year, at least with the gassers. I guess it's the same with diesels. And no, they didn't do a snap test- didn't even put it on the rollers. I don't know if I got a rookie or a vet, guy just did a walkaround, hood open, quick look under for an intact cat... the computer entry stuff and payment took longer than the inspection. $49.95 plus $11.95 filing and "Kalifoo-nee-ah" just got a little less in debt.

What year is your Golf? i cannot remember if I ever had a Cat on my truck, but I know it does not have one now. I bought the truck in 2000 and have never had a smog test, so this year it is going to be interesting. Dang Liberal's with their social taxes disguised as fee's.

I just received my renewal and there was no requirement for smog ck of any kind. Very good news, the bad news my tags were $327.00. Taxes disguised as fees!

I did mine to sell it...

Snap test was done first...he started the truck to pull it into the bay and did 3 very quick snap tests...pulled it in the shop and let it idle...looked at me and said well one down two to go...

he poped the hood, and started looking...pulled out a sheet of paper that I assume told him what my truck should have as far as emmisions stuff...looked under the motor at my Crank Vent and then looked at the top end stuff....walked down to the passenger side rear door...looked under and noted no cat...asked me what year it was again and I said 1999, he opened the driver door and checked the VIN and build date and cross referenced the sheet again and said...OK no cat from factory...then he said TWO down one to go...

went to the computer and started typing in VIN info and other stuff...walked back and pluged in the OBD II and then went back to the computer...hit a button and started staring at the screen...walked back to the OBD and unpluged it...

he came back to me as said It's a bit loud and but not loud enough to not pass...

he said he checked the turbo, and checked for chips and as far as he was concerned thats is what the state requires him to do...everything else was as it should have been..he said he watched the youtube videos where the guy (his words not mine) "acted like he knew what he was talking about" explained that dodge trucks will puff smoke on start up but will clear up. and as long as the trucks he smogged did just that he saw no problems.

he took me into the office and we chatted abit and then he issued me my PASS notice and said one had been sent electronicly to the DMV...

he said, the snap test was clear of smoke on all three goes, and he didnt see any chips (I told him he wouldnt cuz there were none) and he said my turbo was stock, he said the OBD showed no codes and MIL status was ready...

all in all a very harmless experience...my smog was 88 bucks...

I dont like it any more than the rest of you, and if I had a truck that was as built as most of the people I would most likely be worried with the thousands I would have invested...but if you have the means and parts to put it back to stock for the one day test...DO IT...the test itself is not that bad.

just my two cents, and dont kill me messanger....

NCA

So the tech checked to see if the turbo was the factory one? *** that sucks how do they check is there a vin on it or something?

Man I"d be in trouble if my registration was $795. Just got mine yesterday for $76.

mine is up for renewal this month, no smog test request, but my regs with weight sticker 26k. is $891. CA # is 120 then there is DOT, haven't seen their's yet.

Ok don't hate me but I am a CA smog tech and have had to smog about 15 diesels and have passed all but one, the Ford 6.0 that was traded in and had no cat so that was no question, we have Chevy VW and MBZ lines, only seen 2 dmaxes and the rest were VW's. The snap test is not too much too worry about because the smoke has 3 seconds to dispurse. I think that most of the problems are going to be aftermarket parts that are not approved, there is a list that the BAR has put out of parts thta are ok that at first they were wanting us to fail, the biggest is the allowance of any E-brake as long as all the sensors, and cats are still there. Any questions let me know I will try and help.

So what do you mean the smoke has 3 seconds to clear? 3 seconds to clear from the air by the time it is already out of the exhaust pipe? Every cloud of smoke i've seen lingers on for longer then 3 seconds.

http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/DieselworkshopVideos.htm
this can explane it better than I can

http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/DieselworkshopVideos.htm
this can explane it better than I can With the can-bus system used on the '03+,doesn't that keep you from hooking up to the diagnostic port? I'd read that you're doing a dash check for CEL light only.

What about a CMF intake horn will that pass? It does not really do anything but smooth out the air etc.

With the can-bus system used on the '03+,doesn't that keep you from hooking up to the diagnostic port? I'd read that you're doing a dash check for CEL light only.
Yes your right the CAN trucks will not get a OBDII check but will get everything else
as for the intake horn it depends on how much it replaces, best thing to do is contact the Co. that makes it and ask them.

So the tech checked to see if the turbo was the factory one? *** that sucks how do they check is there a vin on it or something?

Yes the Tech checked the Turbo, I would assume that the Sheet he pulled listed the "name" of the OEM turbo...notice that all dodge trucks come with a Holset turbo and 99.9% of the time the "name" holset is visible on them...probally checked that is was just that...I can tell you that it doenst take a genious to tell that a polished turbo or twins with homemade/aftermaket tweeked piping is gonna say "look at me" and after a few of these it isnt gonna take the genious tech to realize that 95% of the trucks come in with a turbo that looks like "this" and "your" doesnt look like theirs'

Yes your right the CAN trucks will not get a OBDII check but will get everything else
as for the intake horn it depends on how much it replaces, best thing to do is contact the Co. that makes it and ask them.


with regard to the "horn" question....it is gonna take interpetation on the tech for the first few tests....DMV and CARB lists "HORN" as an acceptable aftermarket product...but they dont say what a "Horn" is....some people call there intake bellow from the air box the "horn" we know it to not be the same thing most of us are talking about....after awhile I think CARB is gonna get the picture and allow both....COLD AIR INTAKE filters and intake tubing as well as INTAKE HORNS

right now BANKS HIGH RAM intake horns are listed as 50 state smog CARB legal.

NCA

I can't see the smog being harmless. It's a waste of $90 and my time.

I've got a cold air intake--is that going to be a problem? I don't see how you can pay money to make your truck more fuel efficient and then get dinged for it a few years later.

Are they measuring the db level? I've got a MBRP exhaust--reviews said it wasn't that loud--it's louder then I would prefer--but I had already spent the money on the exhaust and the install--so it didn't make any sense to swap it out.

All the intake horns should be fine as long as the grid heater is intact. The cost should come down. Gas smogging averages $40.00 here. Most of the CAI's are Carb approved now also. If they start measuring db's,they should start with the Harley's.

There is a bill in the CA legislature to now start allowing installment payments for registration fees because they have gotten so high.

There is a bill in the CA legislature to now start allowing installment payments for registration fees because they have gotten so high.

Now that right there is funny...I dont care who you are!!!!

Isnt this state SOOOOO Grand...how nice of them. lol

NCA

Why does the grid heater need to be intact? What about the BHAF air filters? I have the BHAF and no grid heaters. Good thing they didn't ask to have me do a smog check this year. But next year, I may need to replace the grid heater, what ever that has to do with emissions is a mystery.

So this law only applies to 1997 and newer diesels right? My tags are good till Oct. but I haven't heard anything yet. I would pass anyway.

Biodiesel may help you guys pass these emissions tests. I have run up to 80% in mine out of curiousity. No smoke.

So this law only applies to 1997 and newer diesels right? My tags are good till Oct. but I haven't heard anything yet. I would pass anyway.

I was told 98 and up are going to be smogged so u might be one of the lucky ones.

Why does the grid heater need to be intact? What about the BHAF air filters? I have the BHAF and no grid heaters. Good thing they didn't ask to have me do a smog check this year. But next year, I may need to replace the grid heater, what ever that has to do with emissions is a mystery.

Grid heaters are considered part of the emission system. Air horn intake mods and cat back exhaust mods seem to be acceptable according to the literature.

Grid heaters are considered part of the emission system. Air horn intake mods and cat back exhaust mods seem to be acceptable according to the literature.


I guess when I redo my font end and upgrade my brakes in the next 2 or 3 weeks, I'll hook up my grid heater as well. I can't see how heating up air is part of the emissions. But those guys must be smart, they get me to send them more money than they send me :). Thanks for the info, BRO

For the 2nd Gen trucks. What about the puke bottle PVC mod? Does that piece of junk bottle have to go back in there to pass?

For the 2nd Gen trucks. What about the puke bottle PVC mod? Does that piece of junk bottle have to go back in there to pass?

Mine passed without it...I didnt do any relocation of the puke bottle...just flat out removed it...and they didnt even question....

there again, the smog shop I went to also specialized in Cummins powered RV repairs.

they were familiar with the motor.

NCA

I guess when I redo my font end and upgrade my brakes in the next 2 or 3 weeks, I'll hook up my grid heater as well. I can't see how heating up air is part of the emissions. But those guys must be smart, they get me to send them more money than they send me :). Thanks for the info, BRO

In cold weather heating the intake air reduces smoke emissions. I have observed this on my own truck since I have disconnected my grid heaters to allow the battery to charge on short trips. With the heaters operating the truck smokes much less on cold starts during cold weather.

Glad we don't have to worry about that here in Montana. Any rigs over 10 years old and you can buy the permanent tags. Registration is good for the life of the truck.

Here in Nevada they strap your diesel down to a load-cell roller just like a dyno and allow you to bring up from 5mph to 45mph and then back to zero. Before the test they do a visual check for intact exhaust system and then put a light/opacity sensor on the exhaust tip. You're allowed 40% max on the older trucks, 30% or so on the newer ones.

Let me tell you, with me behind the wheel, I can bring it up to speed slow enough to let the turbo get spooled and make less than 1% smoke with my dirty running Jammer 5's.

If NV did a snap throttle test, I don't think I could pass with standard diesel fuel, I'd have to run Biodiesel B20 and make sure I tested early in the morning on a cool day.

If you have an Edge on stock and just use if for the gauges will it pass? Or does it have to be removed?

Thanks

If you have an Edge on stock and just use if for the gauges will it pass? Or does it have to be removed?

Thanks

If they can see that the edge is pluged in to either the MAP or Wire Taped they will FAIL it (if they know what they are looking for that is)

I passed mine with a Quadzilla Commander, but that truly is a STAND ALONE digital guage set. There was no chip or wire tap on the truck.

NCA

Has anybody passed with aftermarket injectors besides rv275's?

What about the turbo, are they really looking for it to say HOLSET on it? I would think besides the name stamped on the housing and a slightly larger outlet, there would be not much to differentiate between the stock turbo and say a schwitzer s300.

I had mine done and I think because I had guages hed apent about 30 minutes looking over the truck.. Spent alot of time around the turbo.. also took the book out and then went back to the turbo He actually spent a long time around the turbo then hooked it up to the computer and passed the truck...

I watched the video from BAR and it tell them that if there are guages it is an indicator that there are modifications.. But that guages are in no way a fail..

From what the video says this test is because to many people modify Diesels and they spit to much smoke out. so I guess I am paying $60.00 every other year because people mod their trucks.. Oh well.. Mod them away..!!

Well alittle bit of good news is that not all counties will have to smog ther trucks acording to dieselpower june 2010 issue certain counties will only have to smog if u sell it. Also if your truck has a GVRW of 14000 lbs u never have to get smogged so go out and get those 4500 5500's and mod away. I wish I knew this loop hole I would have swooped up a 4500 at my local dealer who was blowing them out last year.

Well alittle bit of good news is that not all counties will have to smog ther trucks acording to dieselpower june 2010 issue certain counties will only have to smog if u sell it. Also if your truck has a GVRW of 14000 lbs u never have to get smogged so go out and get those 4500 5500's and mod away. I wish I knew this loop hole I would have swooped up a 4500 at my local dealer who was blowing them out last year.

Those trucks over 14,000 lbs fall under the heavy diesel truck smog regs. there ain`t no free lunch !!! [nonono]

Hmmm well guess u have to live in the county that only makes u smogg when u sell

does any one know if a BHAF will pass? It looks like all the BANKS K&N stuff is good to go

Just got the smog check done successfully this last Friday, I did however reinstall the stock fuel curve plate and cataletic converter. cant wait to get the #10 plate back in, feels like it lost a good hundred horse power with the change back to stock. price was $32.95. Glad I save all the stock pieces.

My 04 missed the smog which was due in April. My buddy's 05 which is due in June needs a smog.

Any boxes (edge, Tst, etc) needs to not "missing". The turbo needs to be stock. The High Ram and AFE's can stay.

The joke of this is.....that the boxes will be off in 30 min....30 min down to the smog....and then 30 min to plug them back in for two more years.

My 04 missed the smog which was due in April. My buddy's 05 which is due in June needs a smog.

Any boxes (edge, Tst, etc) needs to not "missing". The turbo needs to be stock. The High Ram and AFE's can stay.

The joke of this is.....that the boxes will be off in 30 min....30 min down to the smog....and then 30 min to plug them back in for two more years.

two years ? I thought we had to smog every year?

California smogs have always been two years......unless the diesel's the state has lost its mind and changed it specially for us??????

Makes me almost want to sell the truck......but that's what the green bean counters in Sacramento want us to do.......drive little pos's that have sudden acceleration....

Just got my registration bill.

Contra Costa County.

Biennial smog required.

Check for Emmision mods.

Snap test.

$68.00 at local smog shop for test.

$522.00 for registration.

$19.97 for .40cal 50 count box. *I kid, I kid*

Anybody had to get a check around Long Beach? Don't want to take the truck to one of these gas station knuckle heads. The spare beater car is one thing but it one of these guys does something stupid............ need to get it this weekend.

thanks.

I went to a Smog Station recommended by some guys last Thursday that stated they were good. The guys who recommended them to me only had Gas cars.

I went by last Thursday (Western Ave. & Torrance Blvd.) and the smog tech guy acted like he was a big shot !!! His first question was if I had in Hi-Perf. equipment on the truck. He started acting like he wrote the laws... He started quoting me a bunch of half truths until I corrected him.

He looked at my exhaust pipe and told me he can tell I wouldn't pass even though my truck was dirty. I just looked at him.

He told me that the "Puke Bottle" would need to re-installed !!! He also told me that there is supposed to be a Smog Sticker somewhere on the truck detailing the smog equipment that came stock on the truck and that he would not be able to Smog the truck without it and to go back to the dealer for it. He said ALL vehicles have them even though I've never seen on a Diesel truck.

He stated that after seeing my exhaust pipe, gauges, AFE air filter and modified breather (missing puke bottle) he would have to really go through my truck with a fine tooth combe to see if I am hidding anythng !!!

He really takes this stuff personally and acted like his S _ _ _ doesn't stink !!! Don't go to the Smog Station on the South East corner of Western Ave. and Torrance Blvd.

Needless to say I told him where he could go and the direct route to get there and burned rubber out of there.

I took my Edge and Smarty off previously, washed the truck Friday and scrubed the soot/exhaust out of the inside of my exhaust tip. I also added Lucas fuel treatment and Power Service but my Schwitzer turbo (HTT) was left on. Also, when I added my 4 in. MBRP exhaust, I did NOT put the resonator back on so I don't have a Resonator on my exhaust.

To cut a long story short, I got my truck smogged yesterday evening (Friday) out in Fontana, Ca and my truck passed with flyng colors !!! With my HTT turbo, no Resonator, no Puke Bottle, and no BS Smog Sticker. And no, I did not grind off the Schwitzer name from my HTT turbo and I'm running DDP 110 injectors, AFE Air cleaner and CFM+ intake horn. I used my Smarty to clear all ODBC-II codes.

They did a visual inspection of the engine compartment but I couldn't tell if they looked at the exhaust pipe. Thee did a snap test of the exhaust which the smoke cleared up very quickly and they checked the crankcase with the truc running at an idle and there was no smoke. My truck is on the all stock settings. My Smarty put everything back to the stock setting.

I plan on moving out of California before my next smog check is due. With high taxes, high cost of living, jobs going oversears and now Diesel Smog checks... I've had enough !!!

Good luck to my fellow Diesel owners !!!

I'm looking at moving back from Ak but considering selling my truck if I'm going to go through the hell that it can be to smog your vehicle.

Heres my question. I have a 2003 2500 4x4 which is originally from Canada. I don't remember ever seeing a CAT on my stock exhaust, and now I have a side dump custom 5" Diamond Eye setup with the muffler(resonator?) on that comes with it. I also have an AFE air intake. I can put my computer back to normal with the Smarty, but will I pass the visual? Everything else is stock.

I'm an idiot for doing this but I chucked my stock exhaust and stock air intake when had to move into a smaller place in a short time frame.

I went to a Smog Station recommended by some guys last Thursday that stated they were good. The guys who recommended them to me only had Gas cars.

I went by last Thursday (Western Ave. & Torrance Blvd.) and the smog tech guy acted like he was a big shot !!! His first question was if I had in Hi-Perf. equipment on the truck. He started acting like he wrote the laws... He started quoting me a bunch of half truths until I corrected him.

He looked at my exhaust pipe and told me he can tell I wouldn't pass even though my truck was dirty. I just looked at him.

Yeah some places are just like that. I got my mom's Honda Accord smogged about a week ago. Bone stock except for a short ram intake I put on a while ago. I showed up to the smog station with all the paperwork INCLUDING the CARB number for the intake. Believe it or not, the woman behind the counter started giving me grief about it before even looking at the vehicle. She said I needed a CARB sticker blah blah. I said I'll be back with it... Drove 20 feet down the road to another smog place. Not only did they have me in and out in less than 15 minutes, they even gave me a discount without me asking for it!! The car passed with flying colors. After all, it's a bone stock Accord that's been maintained well! It's bad enough how strict the emissions law is, it's unbelievable when the smog people try to give you hard time for a vehicle that is obviously passing. [dummy]

I was reading in the current issue of Diesel Progress magazine this afternoon that starting in 2014 all Calif diesel engines over 50 hp and over ten years old will have to start paying a yearly penalty that will increase each year. Pre 1994 engines will have to pay more.
Idea is to force people with older non-pollution controlled engines to buy new cleaner ones.

Don't know how they'll enforce it for gensets, farm tractors, etc but I imagine for highway vehicles they'll tack it on to your registration.

More revenue eh Bill:(

More revenue eh Bill:(For a bankrupt state.
The problem is they haven't figured out the majority of diesel engines are used by businesses.
They'll just leave the state when the cost of doing business gets too high.
There goes more tax revenue leaving unemployed people on the public dole in it's wake.

Beautiful state with an excellent climate but too much government interference.
I managed a 5000 acre farm 25 miles up the coast from Santa Barbara in the '70s.
Ranch had almost a mile of beach with Ronald Reagan and John Travolta for neighbors. It was a paradise.

You would think the government would leave you alone out in the boonies like that but no.
It got so bad dealing with the state that I had no time for farming, paperwork all the time.
Last straw was when the county wanted to put in a water meter and charge us for irrigation water we drew out of two creeks that began and ended totally on the property.
To me it was like charging for the rain.
I only could stand it for four years before returning to the northwest.

I'm looking at moving back from Ak but considering selling my truck if I'm going to go through the hell that it can be to smog your vehicle.

Heres my question. I have a 2003 2500 4x4 which is originally from Canada. I don't remember ever seeing a CAT on my stock exhaust, and now I have a side dump custom 5" Diamond Eye setup with the muffler(resonator?) on that comes with it. I also have an AFE air intake. I can put my computer back to normal with the Smarty, but will I pass the visual? Everything else is stock.

I'm an idiot for doing this but I chucked my stock exhaust and stock air intake when had to move into a smaller place in a short time frame.

Looks like i'm good to go. Matched up my CPL number and it came with no cat from the factory. I guess I just need to bring documentation with me for the smog test.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/dodge/0604dp_cummins_diesel_motor_history/cummins_engine_specs.html

Anyone have experience smogging diesel in tehama or shasta county? Wondering what to expect.

pacmule

Did my truck 2 months ago in Redding and only failed because my puke bottle was gone but drove to dealer and bought one and was good to go. Took only about 5 min. for my truck as it's all stock, they drove it in and hit the gas to see if it smoked,and just did a visual under the hood.

The turbo needs to be stock. The High Ram and AFE's can stay.




You sure about the air cleaner? I run a AFe stage 2 and was told it will not pass the visual. I can return the ECM to stock or 1/2 power for no smoke is needed.


ML

Smogged my bucket a while back. Had 1 small SNAFU, but easily fixed. Here is a little history: Used to have a Superchips programmer long ago. Later on I bought an EDGE EZ, but never stacked the programmers, so it was EDGE EZ on stock ECM for a while. Changed the EDGE EZ out for Quadzilla Adrenaline, and got Orders to California tha year they started this smog stuff. Once I got my smog notice, I totally removed the Q-Zilla, and cleared ECM for good measure (It had been throwing a random crank position sensor CEL). Rolled to the local smog/auto repair shop. They said they couldn't see past a certian point in the electronics reading, and I needed to have the ECM re-flashed. Off to the Dodge dealer I go, and fork out $100 for the reflash. Drove it around a few miles as suggested, and back to the smog shop. The said it passed, but they still couldn't see past a certian point. I had to take a gamble at the DMV (which they said has a better readout) for a full on pass. Luckily it passed there. I still don't know if one of the programmers or the Crank Position Sensor was causing the missing data. For visual I brought in the list of items that had applied for the CARB #s. All of my parts passed visual, and were to my surprise on the list. Of course they can't see the injectors. The smog tech was also a bit iffy on the snap test as it blew a little soot, he said it almost failed. I didn't really like how fast they stabbed the throttle for that, it was literally a stomp, not rolling into it.

I still haven't put the Q-zilla back in and miss it a bit.

In addition to the stuff in my sig line I have a BD Super B single, and a pulse flow manifold, both of which have the applied for CARB #s.