h351ve vgt on a 5.9???
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h351ve vgt on a 5.9???
I was wondering if it is possible to put a turbo off of the 6.7 on a 5.9? Has anyone done this. Does it work? any kind of mods needed? Thanks.
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It is possible with some modifications. The flange is an odd size so the manifold needs to be worked over a bit.
Since the controller for the variable collar is electronic need to build either and electrical boost reference or mechanical boost reference setup.
In the process of doing exactly that for a 1st gen. Still engineering things.
Since the controller for the variable collar is electronic need to build either and electrical boost reference or mechanical boost reference setup.
In the process of doing exactly that for a 1st gen. Still engineering things.
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search the 1st gen forum. theres a guy on there who did it, but he removed all the electronics and was actuating the vanes with his hand on the video. I would assume hes going to run a cable into the cab or have a simple electric actuator.
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seems to me if you can make it work with your hand you could certainly use a plc running a PID to control it...doesn't sound that difficult, would love to do it if I had a test truck...
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I saw one for sale cheap and was thinking about it but i dont know enough about how the turbo funtions to know if i can do it or not. Thats the problem. hmmmm
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Controlling the veins by hand would suck. Until a company comes out with a controller (if they do) I wouldnt touch it.
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I don't claim to know how the VGT turbo off the 6.7 works as far as electronics goes so take it easy on me.......
I have a friend that is into the VW diesels and they are making electronics themselves that work very well to adapt smaller VGT's to their little diesels. It's supposedly as easy as tapping into the map sensor for boost reference (voltage outputs). Something along the lines of 5 volts is wide open and 0 volts is shut all the way, and everything in between. I do know that the map sensor on the 5.9 runs along this same voltage, so really, I don't see how hard it could be. IF THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW THEY WORK.
With that said, I just picked up a VGT 6.7 turbo for cheap, just to play around with. After watching the video of the guy with one on his 1st gen, I might have to put it on just to turn a few heads when the collar is shut all the way. It sounds pretty good.
I have a friend that is into the VW diesels and they are making electronics themselves that work very well to adapt smaller VGT's to their little diesels. It's supposedly as easy as tapping into the map sensor for boost reference (voltage outputs). Something along the lines of 5 volts is wide open and 0 volts is shut all the way, and everything in between. I do know that the map sensor on the 5.9 runs along this same voltage, so really, I don't see how hard it could be. IF THIS IS ACTUALLY HOW THEY WORK.
With that said, I just picked up a VGT 6.7 turbo for cheap, just to play around with. After watching the video of the guy with one on his 1st gen, I might have to put it on just to turn a few heads when the collar is shut all the way. It sounds pretty good.
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The variable portion of the turbo is based on more than just the MAP signal. Rpm's, coolant temp, and probably several others are used.
That being said, the turbo uses and electric motor to set the desired size of the turbine housing. One could either work out some electronics to set it or take that portion off and use straight boost to control the bell crank. Either way will work.
Takes a bit more engineering to use it as an exhaust brake though.
That being said, the turbo uses and electric motor to set the desired size of the turbine housing. One could either work out some electronics to set it or take that portion off and use straight boost to control the bell crank. Either way will work.
Takes a bit more engineering to use it as an exhaust brake though.
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There's a company in Indiana (I think) called Fleece performance that should be coming out with one this month. One guy is running one with incredible results and it does have a in dash controller and brake all in one... and it's a ball bearing ceramic... i think... sounds like a freakin' F-16 at idle.
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I emailed them the other day to see if they either have something that will work on a factory VGT or can make/modify something to work, hadnt heard back yet but ill post what they say...