Since they announced that Sterling will be no more, I guess the Bullet will go down in history as a short lived production vehicle. Unless they re-badge it as Freightliner??

I seen my first one the other day on the road. Dad was wondering what it was, and I had to look twice to recall the truck. Very cool looking truck, too bad they are no more.

Well as the proud owner of one[dummy] and not having a reply to an email sent to my selling dealer as to the future of the my warranty work[verymad][verymad]

All that I can say is..At least I can buy parts from Dodge to fit the dang thing..[laugh][laugh]

y are they done with it

y are they done with it

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a_zTI9mxB9os&refer=home

Well as the proud owner of one[dummy] and not having a reply to an email sent to my selling dealer as to the future of the my warranty work[verymad][verymad]

All that I can say is..At least I can buy parts from Dodge to fit the dang thing..[laugh][laugh]

They said they will still fully warranty and support the product, just stopping production of the Sterling brand. They claim it will save them 900 million. The big truck industry has been hit hard too, its just a matter of survival.

I wouldn't be surprised if they expand the Western Star line to include the Bullet. In other articles I have read concerning this, Star is suspose to expand it's line-up to cover the various segments previously covered by Sterling. If you remember, just prior to Freightliner buying Western Star several years ago, Star partnerd with DINA out of Mexico to introduce a medium duty line-up. This lead to a law suit by DINA due to Freightliners cancelation of this agreement which was for several thousand trucks over a 5 years period, if memory serves.

John

They said they will still fully warranty and support the product, just stopping production of the Sterling brand. They claim it will save them 900 million. The big truck industry has been hit hard too, its just a matter of survival.

That's an interesting point how can the dealers stay open if they are not selling trucks and have parts to fix the old ones??

Hard times ahead indeed.

When vehicles go for such a short production like the Sterling, makes you wonder if they'll be "collectors items" one day...

That's an interesting point how can the dealers stay open if they are not selling trucks and have parts to fix the old ones??

Sterling will be supported by any Freightliner or Western Star dealer. Will they stock parts like a Sterling dealer did, not likely.

Since Diamler sold Chrysler to Celebrus, the interest in cross marketing the Ram may not be all that important anymore. If you do see it again I would be Freightliner not Star. They have already said many of the specialty Sterling trucks would be in the M class line eventually.

whats the price difference between the 4500/5500 and stering truck

(Not that this go's here). We may not even be seeing Dodge anymore if this GM-Chrysler merger go's through. [director] [tapdshut] [verymad] :( [yuk] :mad: [nonono] [rant]

whats the price difference between the 4500/5500 and stering truck

The grill. Its just a re-badged Dodge.

(Not that this go's here). We may not even be seeing Dodge anymore if this GM-Chrysler merger go's through. [director] [tapdshut] [verymad] :( [yuk] :mad: [nonono] [rant]

You've got to wonder what models would survive in the combined company, you know since they own and build the Dmax would that be the end of the Cummins??

You've got to wonder what models would survive in the combined company, you know since they own and build the Dmax would that be the end of the Cummins??

IMO,
Ram=Gone
Cummins option=Gone.
Durango=Gone.
Charger=Gone.
Challenger=Gone.
I'm going out for Beer...:(

Doug.

I can only hope, that a Cummins engine would be an option, when ordering a truck.

IMO,
Ram=Gone
Cummins option=Gone.
Durango=Gone.
Charger=Gone.
Challenger=Gone.
I'm going out for Beer...:(

Doug.
The Dodge brand will not go away. GM actually wants the Dodge and Jeep brand. There may be some models disappearing, but the Ram will not be one of them. How about rebadging Hummers as Jeeps?[laugh]

Dodge may not go away, the "Ram" may not go away but it could become like the GMC is to the Chevy.

the transition could take years, the money invested in the production of materials i'm sure are stock piled. the hottest vehicles chrysler has had are i believe the 300, the charger, the ram, the challengers are selling very well here. mopar is known for performance and i would think that GM would make the most of the mopar nostalgia.

the cummins is the best know engine out there. everyone knows that cummins is going to be around for a long time and they are dependent on one outlet for their product. with or without GM. ford has cummins as an option as do many other truck mfg.

jeep is the biggest draw because it has been attached to Willys, American Motors and then chrysler. try saying jeep and mopar together. jeep stands alone. gm has gotten where it is by being the smartest of the big three.

Dodge may not go away, the "Ram" may not go away but it could become like the GMC is to the Chevy.

So that would make my Bullet which is a Dodge a GMC which is a Chevy I'm with you now...

Dodge may not go away, the "Ram" may not go away but it could become like the GMC is to the Chevy.

Probably more like the Chevy is to the GMC[duhhh]

The grill. Its just a re-badged Dodge.

lol i know that but some times the price differece is huge

March of 2009 ALL STERLING PRODUCTS ARE GONE! They are dissolving the company and are not making trucks anymore.

March of 2009 ALL STERLING PRODUCTS ARE GONE! They are dissolving the company and are not making trucks anymore.

That we already knew. What the question is like other unique things Sterling
has that will become Freightliner will the Bullet make a change too. It would be simple to change it from the Sterling Bullet to the Freightliner Bullet. But with Daimler not the majority owner in Chrysler (and likely selling the part they still have) is there any interest in even selling a re-branded Dodge anymore.

The problem I have found is that I don't have access to these trucks as far as information wise. The VIN's are blocked from Chryslers computer system at the dealership level. Lot's of guys have asked me for the grilles and I am unable to get them directly. My Sterling rep in town says he was told to refer customers to Freightliner. They did this when the Sprinters first came to the US. I had to call Freightliner for assistance. Not soon after that they dropped the Freightliner labeling and made them a dedicated Dodge. Freightliner was then calling me as their system was blocked from Dodge. Weird stuff.

Tried to make a backup key for a tow driver the other week and was blocked there too.

Chris

That we already knew. What the question is like other unique things Sterling
has that will become Freightliner will the Bullet make a change too. It would be simple to change it from the Sterling Bullet to the Freightliner Bullet. But with Daimler not the majority owner in Chrysler (and likely selling the part they still have) is there any interest in even selling a re-branded Dodge anymore.

I am not sure that Freightliner will pick up the Bullet or maybe they will without the Cummins. Because I thought a couple of years back Freightliner dropped the Cummins motor line, maybe I am wrong?

I am not sure that Freightliner will pick up the Bullet or maybe they will without the Cummins. Because I thought a couple of years back Freightliner dropped the Cummins motor line, maybe I am wrong?


Since its essentially a Dodge the Cummins is the only option. And they still offer a Cummins as an option. Here they are for the M class.

Mercedes-Benz MBE 900 Ratings from 170-350 hp
Mercedes-Benz MBE 4000 Ratings from 350-450 hp
Cummins ISB Ratings from 200-300 hp
Cummins ISC Ratings from 240-330 hp
Caterpillar C13 Ratings from 305-470 hp

Well that would certainly explain why the bullet 5500 can be had for 35 grand and change. At least up by me. I called a dodge dealer yesterday about the dodge 5500...I'll see what he says...

Just read that Renault-Nissan is looking to buy 20% of Chysler and make them a partner in their "alliance". Perhaps we will see Cummins powerd, Dodge built, Nissan Titans in the future. Also, Nissan is establishing a Lightwight Commercial Vehicle (LCV) division. Perhaps the 4500 and 5500 models will find a home there.

John

it's fun speculating on what is going to happen next with Chrysler. none of us have a clue other then we are going off of day old information which may or may not be correct.

You're right there. Even being a Chrysler employee, the info I get is just as confusing. This is the header on Chrysler's website.....

"Chrysler LLC as a matter of policy does not confirm or disclose the nature of its private business meetings. As we have said, the Company is looking at a number of potential global partnerships as it explores growth opportunities around the world. Beyond those partnerships already announced however, Chrysler has not formed any new agreements and has no further announcements to make at this time."


Hmmmmmm.

Chris

I see a brand new Sterling for sale at the local Western Star dealer.
Its $43,000 for a crew cab , cab and chasis , I thought that sounded cheap?

May be I should call my grandma's brother who was VP under Lee Iacocca. He probably knows nothing as well........................

The dealer I bought my Bullet from is in the dark as well..she assured me that they would keep their doors open(Freightliner Dealer) do warranty work and part sales. Between this and the GM Chrysler merger it makes you wonder...

Longhorn I gave less than that for mine the Bullets are cheaper than the Dodge counterparts..

The dealer I bought my Bullet from is in the dark as well..she assured me that they would keep their doors open(Freightliner Dealer) do warranty work and part sales. Between this and the GM Chrysler merger it makes you wonder...

Longhorn I gave less than that for mine the Bullets are cheaper than the Dodge counterparts..

I paid ALOT more than that for my Ford.
I thought that sounded like a pretty good price , it was not a bad looking truck.

I paid ALOT more than that for my Ford.
I thought that sounded like a pretty good price , it was not a bad looking truck.


I prefer the looks of the Sterling grill over the Dodges as well so far the truck is doing fine..top load so far was +/- 45K for truck, trailer and cargo.. pic in profile

I prefer the looks of the Sterling grill over the Dodges as well so far the truck is doing fine..top load so far was +/- 45K for truck, trailer and cargo.. pic in profile


Nice truck , its the same as the one I was talking about.
Same colour anyway.

I'm done with this. I really hope the Chrysler Corp and all of the jobs go under. I'm going to bed...that's about all I have to say about that.

March of 2009 ALL STERLING PRODUCTS ARE GONE! They are dissolving the company and are not making trucks anymore.

That's bad news for the Dodge 4500/5500 because their frames are bulit by Sterling . http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/medium-duty.html
Then consider GM is already trying to sell their medium duty line . They don't want another one .

i don't think i can handle to much more good news.

ive heard they would keep the ram trucks, challanger, jeep line, 300c town and country and eleminate the gm trucks

good rumor spread it around maybe it will become real.

good rumor spread it around maybe it will become real.


Rumors Run A Muck

Cummins buys the Dodge line up of trucks from Chrysler...

[laugh][laugh][laugh]

Now there's a rumor to spread..

Now that sound like a real good idea. Maybe we should start that rumor on the Cummins site and some bigwig might see it and think, hey we should look into this.

Cummins buying a truck line is not so far fetched as history has shown. For those of you who remember the Diamond Reo line of heavy duty trucks back in 1975 they went bankrupt and Cummins made an effort to purchase the brand and keep it going, but due to antitrust concerns this deal never went though. Too bad as Diamond Reo was a tough great looking truck.

John

Aint gonna happen...cash is king right now. I think they could wait and pick it up from GM for alot LESS. IMHO trucks sales will never come back the way they were. If you ask me, I don't see ANY auto or truck EVER come back to sales levels they once were. All the money that was lost in the recent crash wont be recovered for another 50 years!!! Unless the the psychology AND a persons bankbook can be made to come back and comeback soon, it will be impossible for ANY auto sales to resume to any level.
Right now people are going to keep the car/truck that they have for the next TEN years regardless if gas goes to 10 bucks a gallon. Smartcars are NOT what the majority of the US buyers want.
If the industry retools to Smartcars, very few will be able to afford them, very few will WANT them!!! ( especially after reports come out of on how people had fared in accidents with 4 ton diesel pickup trucks). The industry will come out with a bogus survivability report on how good they are in accidents to try and motivate sales. They will be unable to repeal the laws of PHYSICS!!!

And I am putting politics aside. Including politics makes another story!

What I want to see is a 4 ton diesel pickup truck that gets 30 mpg at 65 mph and be able to tow 14000 pounds for $10000!!! Hows that Nancy Pelosi!!!

In other word, it aint gonna happen!:)

IMO,
Ram=Gone
Cummins option=Gone.
Durango=Gone.
Charger=Gone.
Challenger=Gone.
I'm going out for Beer...:(

Doug.

Yeah me too wheres the fridge
DM01

that Congress passed a law this last summer to force the auto manufacturers to build more fuel efficient cars. I dont see a run on smart cars, maybe it was CONGRESS that again caused the problem! Nobody is taklking about this. IMHO it was Congress that broke the back of the auto makers. First it was emimsions, then BS fuel economy. NOW what they are making is what people DON'T want...bad mileage in a shoe box...if they can afford it now.

I dont see a run on smart cars

There is about a year wait to get one[duhhh], not that I'd want to drive one.

between congress and the uaw the big three are doomed all the bail outs will do is post pone it 10 years if that.

there should be no bailout for any industry in the usa by the taxpayers. i don't care what the sob stories are.

the only time one needs an excuse is when one fails and the us auto industry is one excuse after another.

The auto industry asking for a bailout is like somebody going to one of those extortionist payday loan companies . They have mismanaged their money , are in unmanageable debt and are only digging a deeper hole they can't get out of .
Anyone with any sense would never cosign a loan for anyone . If they were capable of paying the loan they wouldn't need a cosigner . If the auto manufacturers don't have the assets to sell or borrow against to stay in business they just need to face the consequences .
If they were losing $2,000 on every vehicle they produced , why did they keep producing them and selling them for 0% interest and giving huge rebates ? Does anyone that gives a $6,000 rebate then says they lost $2,000 on a vehicle deserve financial assistance ?
But back to the original topic ... Sterling has stopped taking orders on the Bullet . Has anyone ordered a Dodge 4500/5500 lately ? The frames are made by Sterling . I have to wonder if they will be able to continue to make the 4500/5500 when Sterling shuts down .

The auto industry asking for a bailout is like somebody going to one of those extortionist payday loan companies . They have mismanaged their money , are in unmanageable debt and are only digging a deeper hole they can't get out of .
Anyone with any sense would never cosign a loan for anyone . If they were capable of paying the loan they wouldn't need a cosigner . If the auto manufacturers don't have the assets to sell or borrow against to stay in business they just need to face the consequences .
If they were losing $2,000 on every vehicle they produced , why did they keep producing them and selling them for 0% interest and giving huge rebates ? Does anyone that gives a $6,000 rebate then says they lost $2,000 on a vehicle deserve financial assistance ?
But back to the original topic ... Sterling has stopped taking orders on the Bullet . Has anyone ordered a Dodge 4500/5500 lately ? The frames are made by Sterling . I have to wonder if they will be able to continue to make the 4500/5500 when Sterling shuts down .
Agreed 110%. Let 'em all file chapter 11 at least that will force some restructuring. Like someone just said, bailouts would just delay the inevitable. They'd burn through the money so fast it wouldn't even be funny. Its sad that its come to this point but we all have the UAW, BS regulation, and **** poor auto industry execs to thank for all of it.

Since they announced that Sterling will be no more, I guess the Bullet will go down in history as a short lived production vehicle. Unless they re-badge it as Freightliner??


Ummm... doesn't the Edsel qualify as shortest run? 2 years...

just think what edsels are worth today! hang on to them bullets

I heard ford is buying GM trucks and since they own cummins they are going to put a cummins in them. Nissan is getting a cat diesel too.

I heard ford is buying GM trucks and since they own cummins they are going to put a cummins in them. Nissan is getting a cat diesel too.

In todays world you never know what could happen............
[duhhh][duhhh][dummy][dummy][duhhh][duhhh][laugh][laugh][laugh]

unoin contract is coming up so they are closing plant and moving to mexico and rebadging the truck

unoin contract is coming up so they are closing plant and moving to mexico and rebadging the truck
If you are talking about the Sterling Bullet , the only place it was ever made was in Mexico . After March no Sterling trucks will be made anywhere .

So that would make my Bullet which is a Dodge a GMC which is a Chevy I'm with you now...

lets not get hasty, our Bullets will always be Bullets...mine wil never be bow tie junk

lets not get hasty, our Bullets will always be Bullets...mine wil never be bow tie junk
Bow tie junk ? I know hotshotters with Dodges and Chevies . The Chevies spend far less time in the shop and Dodge owners spend far more on motel bills while waiting for parts . I had an '04 Dodge dually and put 100,000 miles on it . I won't buy another one . They never had parts when I all too often needed them .

:rolleyes:Sounds like a Dieselstop story to me

Dodge sells truck line to Audi....... Audi puts the V10 Diesel in them...... Cummins puts the 6.7l in the new Chevys
Duramax/GM go bust and sell out to Ford
Ford now has a descent diesel motor
Everyone goes to Ford because they do not need the bail out money right now.
Everyone has air bag issues and truck fires.....
Economy fails and we all have 40k trucks we cannot afford to drive
Banks cannot afford to repo.....
10 Years ...... America starts taking in all scrap metal from around the world because that is what we are now... The worlds scrap metal country..... That is what will happen.... All go to sleep and tomorrow sell your trucks for 4banger cars so that you can drive them in a couple years prolonging your stress..... [guitar]
Wow..... Where in the he!! did that come from?????