3rd Gen Engine and Drivetrain -> 2003-2007 5.9 liter Engine and drivetrain discussion only. PLEASE, NO HIGH PERFORMANCE DISCUSSION!

Got my First Dodge and have ?'s

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-30-2005, 01:30 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
SkyHarborCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stanfield, Arizona
Posts: 366
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Got my First Dodge and have ?'s

I traded in my 04 PowerPuke and got me an 05 3500 with Cummins and Handshaker (G56).

So far I love the truck it is much better than my Ford. I like the way it handles is much more comfortable and the suspension seems a lot more compliant.

I have a couple of questions though about performance. It seems that I have no acceleration in either 1st (expected) or 2nd (somewhat unexpected). It seems like maybe it revs out prior to building any boost pressure. Is this typical? Third through 6th it ran like a banshee!

I do have one concern though. In the last 50 miles of my trip home I tried to accelerate and the truck seemed to make like detonation sounds and no great acceleration. It was kind of sporadic. Sometimes running great and sometimes not. I also noticed this after I got onto the surface streets where 3rd through 6th gears seemed very lathargic in comparison to my previous 900 miles. The only difference I could see is that my tank is now below 1/4 full where prior to that it was always at least 3/8 full.

Any answers?

Thanks,

Joe
Old 09-30-2005, 03:12 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
bulabula's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Eastern & Western Merryland
Posts: 2,239
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Joe,
Bad fuel possibly? Filter plugged/dirty? Did you buy the last tank of fuel from somewhere other than your usual place?

Is the truck throwing any codes? I can't remember the procedure to access them, but its in the manual.

hth
Old 09-30-2005, 06:10 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
SkyHarborCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stanfield, Arizona
Posts: 366
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I bought the fuel at a Loves Truck stop. I was so tired I didnt even think of bad fuel. That is a possibility. Especially since I had no problem until it went below a 1/4 tank.

Joe
Old 09-30-2005, 10:25 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
J BODY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,654
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by SkyHarborCowboy
I bought the fuel at a Loves Truck stop.
West valley?
Old 09-30-2005, 10:33 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
DmaxEter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Olive Branch MS
Posts: 877
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
first is way too low to start out in. It just blows through the rpms and you hit the rpm limit. 2nd is just about the same way. I know exactly what you are saying. thats all it is though.
Old 10-01-2005, 08:08 AM
  #6  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
SkyHarborCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stanfield, Arizona
Posts: 366
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know 1st is too low a gear to start out in unloaded but I am figure I should go through all of the gears just for a little break-in.

I mentioned my problem to a friend at work and he said bad fuel. He had an 04.5 model and he actually described my problem to me when I mentioned the possibility of bad fuel. He said it isnt really a water in fuel persay but more like getting fuel that is too low in Cetane.

Joe
Old 10-01-2005, 09:13 AM
  #7  
Registered User
 
Texcowboy9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Try one of the diesel additives like Power Service to raise the Cetane. I use an additive every tank for Cetane and to lubricate the pump.
Old 10-01-2005, 09:29 AM
  #8  
Registered User
 
Vittorio's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Arizona Outback
Posts: 272
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
IMO not bad fuel. The truck is new and tight so give it a little time. Also, the Cummins has a lot of low end grunt. The Cummins is not designed to be quick off the line but for hauling and towing large loads.

On the interstate though at speed the Dodge really shines and smooths out at 75 + mph loaded or not.

I have owned a lot of Fords but this new Dodge really is the standard. I have been impressed at its depenability and reliabilty in severe operating conditions.
Old 10-01-2005, 03:49 PM
  #9  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
SkyHarborCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stanfield, Arizona
Posts: 366
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There was a definite change in the way the truck ran from the time I picked it up to the last 50 miles. I actually am pretty sure it was fuel related or something else has malfunctioned.

Where do you guys get your additives to raise the Cetane and how much do they cost? What brands are perfered?

Thanks
Old 10-02-2005, 06:42 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
AirGrabber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Congrats on the new ram. I would have to say your symptoms are fuel related. Dont hesitate to change your fuel filter just because theres only a 1k or so miles on it. A bad load of fuel will put you roadside pretty quik. and you never know how long that 3 gallons of algae'd up mexican fuel/water was sitting in your tank while it was at the factory then your dealer lot. Most napa and advanced auto's will carry powerservice additive and have fuel filters in stock.
Old 10-02-2005, 08:11 AM
  #11  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
SkyHarborCowboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Stanfield, Arizona
Posts: 366
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I drained the bowl and it came out clean as can be. I think it was as my friend stated, low cetane level. I ran the tank down and pulled into the fuel station as my miles to empty went to zero. That wasnt planned but it happened anyway. I tried to top off my tank to the filler neck but ran out of time as I had to get to work. I am puzzled by the fact that even without filling up to the top of the neck I was able to put in 36.988 gallons! That seems like a lot for a 35 gallon tank! What is the most you have ever been able to get into your tank?

Joe

PS. I bought a large bottle of PowerServe to use for this tank and future fill-ups.
Old 10-02-2005, 02:49 PM
  #12  
Registered User
 
Dieselhed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Kansas
Posts: 282
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have put almost 36 in my tank before also. Can't figure that one out. I use the Stanadyne PF in every tank and my Cummins loves it.
Old 10-02-2005, 03:00 PM
  #13  
Registered User
 
Jason Foster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Iowa unfortunately
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I just bought a new 2005 QC 3500 and it was tight as...well I won't go into that , I can tell you that when I drove it off of the lot onto the interstate, I was avg. about 12.5 mpg at 75. I've put about 2600 miles all under 60 mph so far and it went from 15 mpg to 20.5 mpg under 60 and it will accel. faster now than it did. However, it is still very unresponsive over 65 mph which is approx. 2100 rpm or above. The manual says it will break in better pulling a heavy trailer, but I am not any hurry.
Old 10-03-2005, 12:19 AM
  #14  
Registered User
 
rockhound's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Bailey, CO
Posts: 340
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
jason,

get a trailer behind your rig asap. from what i understand the slowly breaking in of your cummins will turn it into an oil burner for the duration of its life. you need to burn it in

i am new to owning a diesel but even my dealer recommended a heavy load as soon as the diffs were ready for it

i loaded 12k pounds up and headed over nearest pass. after i hauled a 6k lbd trailer to louisiana for fema this month (about 1300 miles one way) there was an immediate difference in my gas mileage and the way the rig responded to throttle input all for the better, initially it was more comfortable at 70mph now it loves 75 or 80 and has alot more top end throttle response is more crisp and definite

as for the original post 11.5 seems awfully low, i rolled off the lot getting near 16mpg and am nearly at 18 city or hwy and living at 8500 ft
Old 10-03-2005, 09:23 AM
  #15  
Registered User
 
Jason Foster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Iowa unfortunately
Posts: 171
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have a friend who bought a 05 QC 2500 4X4 with 4.10. He got 18.5 at 70 right off the lot. He was with me when I bought mine and he said it was a completely different truck. The engine was louder and tighter. The more I drive it the better the mileage. I have a 9000 lb car hauler. I guess I should hook it up for a while.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
97CTD
Performance and Accessories 2nd gen only
4
07-29-2007 08:22 AM
saleencobra
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
5
04-11-2007 03:47 PM
bellyscraper
3rd Generation Ram - Non Drivetrain - All Years
6
12-20-2003 01:52 PM
BulletMan
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
8
10-31-2003 10:02 AM



Quick Reply: Got my First Dodge and have ?'s



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:05 AM.