found a pic of some giant tires from interco
http://www.ntwonline.com/uploadedimages/xxIM000771.JPG
from left to right, 44" bogger, 47" ltb, 49" irok, 54" bogger:o

OMG?!?! A 54" Bogger?!?! WAAAAY TOO COOL!!! Are these 54's going to be sold to the public or are they just prototypes?

54" BOGGER.........when the heck did they start making em' that big???? Holy crap that is HUGE!! Very cooooooooool


~Nick

54" BOGGER.........when the heck did they start making em' that big???? Holy crap that is HUGE!! Very cooooooooool


~Nick

I'm surprised you don't have a set yet![laugh]

OMG?!?! A 54" Bogger?!?! WAAAAY TOO COOL!!! Are these 54's going to be sold to the public or are they just prototypes?

54" BOGGER.........when the heck did they start making em' that big???? Holy crap that is HUGE!! Very cooooooooool


~Nick

http://www.ntwonline.com/template.cfm?ID=95

Good info....

Here are some specs and delivery dates...

54” BOGGER FACTS VS FICTION

We’ve been reading a lot of crazy and inaccurate stuff on some of the forums and just want to get you some accurate information. We are closely involved with both Interco Tire and the head engineer at the plant, so these facts are right from the horse’s mouth.

First of all, it is a Bogger. It will be available in a 20” size first and a 17” size next. Other wheel sizes have not been determined yet. The tire that was at the show was a 20” tire, HOWEVER, the 20” plate was not ready yet, so the tire actually said 19.5x54x17 on it.

The tire at the show was a test tire. We picked it up at the factory Friday afternoon after the engineers had popped it from the mold late Thursday night. It was the first one out of the mold, so minor changes may still be made after the initial tires are tested and dissected. There were no other ones ANYWHERE, so nobody had any on their trucks at this show or anywhere else.

I didn’t have a tape measure with me at the show, but it looked to be about 4” taller than the 49 IROK that we had sitting beside it. I measured the IROK when we got back and it measured 48.5” with 15 lbs of air in it. The 54” Bogger only had about 10 lbs of air in it. Since the engineers had not mounted or tested it yet, they didn’t want us to put a bunch of air in it until they had tested it. The “spec air pressure” will be around 25 lbs. Since this one only had 10 lbs of air in it, the tire will probably grow with more air. It was mounted on a 20x12 wheel. The 49 was mounted on a 14” wide wheel.

This tire was heavier than the target weight. This tire weighed around 213 lbs. They are shooting for something in the area of 190-195 lbs.

The tread depth on this tire was 28/32”. It doesn’t look that deep compared to the other Boggers, probably because of just how big the tire is. But it is an optical illusion, only the 15x38.5 Bogger has a deeper skid depth. Just for comparison sake, a 44” Bogger has 26/32” of tread.

The pricing has not been set yet since tire prices are determined in part by weight and the actual weight has not been set yet. They are hoping to bring it in under $650.00 per tire.

As long as everything goes OK and there are no technical issues, they are hoping to release the tire in 6-8 weeks.

I'm surprised you don't have a set yet![laugh]


Man that'd be a BIG tire.......guess I'd need a tad bit more lift for them!!![laugh] Looks like I better call Kelderman today and price an airbag setup for my truck.........[whistle]


~Nick

Man, that's a whole lot of tire!

Sure would keep the RPMs down on the interstate, though.... :o

Yeah, I think I would have a top speed of about 175mph if I could fit those things under my truck. But seriously can you imagine the engine it would take to get them things to turn over and clean in some thick mud. I can't wait to see a set of those on a rig though.

My buddy's been wanting bigger boggers forever so when I saw this thread he was my first call. He's already trying to sell his 44 Boggers and wheels. And he definitely has the motor for it.

Yeah, but I bet he won't have the driveline for it....

A really strong motor and 54's will fry a 1 ton driveline quickly.....These tires are going to be Rockwell only territory

Get a set of Rocks and you'll be good to go with the 54's.

Yeah, but I bet he won't have the driveline for it....

A really strong motor and 54's will fry a 1 ton driveline quickly.....These tires are going to be Rockwell only territory

Get a set of Rocks and you'll be good to go with the 54's.


I totally agree.......especially since they said those tires weigh what like 200 some odd pounds?? Man that'd break some stuff QUICK!!!

I had some boggers on my Jeep ( borrowed from a buddy ) for a few months and hated them with a passion.......they don't work the best on rocks!!! But in the mud they worked SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!

~Nick

Yeah, but I bet he won't have the driveline for it....

A really strong motor and 54's will fry a 1 ton driveline quickly.....These tires are going to be Rockwell only territory

Get a set of Rocks and you'll be good to go with the 54's.

It's got Rockwell's custom tube frame, Bed Mounted Fuel Injected 540, T400, Pro Fab Transfer, King Coilover shocks. I was trying to post pics, but can't find out how on here.

I had some boggers on my Jeep ( borrowed from a buddy ) for a few months and hated them with a passion.......they don't work the best on rocks!!! But in the mud they worked SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!


Totally depends on the type of rock when it comes to Bogger performance! Where I live in the area of the Canadian Shield, there is a a lot of slate and jagged rock....Boggers and Swampers work excellent in this environment because their really large lugs grab and hook the rock and the very tough sidewalls offer excellent protection. You may also notice that many of the hardcore trucks that wheel in the East and through the Appalachian mountains will also be running the 40" - 44" Swamper and Bogger over the dedicated crawler tires because they are much more versatile and wheel well on that type of rock and are offered in the larger sizes that are required to traverse that type of terrain.

The dedicated crawler tires clearly excel in the slicker and smoother rock that the west offers but for those of us that need a tire that works well in a more diverse offroad environment, they don't work so well.

It's got Rockwell's custom tube frame, Bed Mounted Fuel Injected 540, T400, Pro Fab Transfer, King Coilover shocks. I was trying to post pics, but can't find out how on here.

Ok then,

I guess he is good to go then!

Sounds like he has a mini monster truck there.....

Totally depends on the type of rock when it comes to Bogger performance! Where I live in the area of the Canadian Shield, there is a a lot of slate and jagged rock....Boggers and Swampers work excellent in this environment because their really large lugs grab and hook the rock and the very tough sidewalls offer excellent protection. You may also notice that many of the hardcore trucks that wheel in the East and through the Appalachian mountains will also be running the 40" - 44" Swamper and Bogger over the dedicated crawler tires because they are much more versatile and wheel well on that type of rock and are offered in the larger sizes that are required to traverse that type of terrain.

The dedicated crawler tires clearly excel in the slicker and smoother rock that the west offers but for those of us that need a tire that works well in a more diverse offroad environment, they don't work so well.


Yeah most of the trails I wheel on are slick rock and one trail in particular is ALWAYS wet and makes it one slippery son of a gun!!! Granted there is still loose rock and stuff like that, but it was a night and day difference taking those boggers off and putting the Toyo's on!!! Can't decide what kind of tire to run with when I put the 40's on though???? Any thoughts?


~Nick

'round here everything is mud, deep mud. this 54" bogger is right up my alley

Yeah most of the trails I wheel on are slick rock and one trail in particular is ALWAYS wet and makes it one slippery son of a gun!!! Granted there is still loose rock and stuff like that, but it was a night and day difference taking those boggers off and putting the Toyo's on!!! Can't decide what kind of tire to run with when I put the 40's on though???? Any thoughts?


~Nick

If you don't go the Swamper/Bogger route, the selection of 40" Crawler tires isn't large, but it is getting better....

You could go with the 40" Goodyear, 39" BFG Crawler, 39" or 42" IROK and not much else except maybe Maxxis(?).....drop down to 38's and you could add Nitto and Toyo to the list...

A few guys in our club are running 42" IROK's and they stick like glue on the slick rock....but absolutely suck in the mud.

If you don't go the Swamper/Bogger route, the selection of 40" Crawler tires isn't large, but it is getting better....

You could go with the 40" Goodyear, 39" BFG Crawler, 39" or 42" IROK and not much else except maybe Maxxis(?).....drop down to 38's and you could add Nitto and Toyo to the list...

A few guys in our club are running 42" IROK's and they stick like glue on the slick rock....but absolutely suck in the mud.


I thought about doing the 39.5" Irocks because they seem to work extremely well like you said on the rocks. Plus I can get them for a smoking deal through my buddy. I never really play much in the mud, so I'm not to worried about that.

The crawlers are sweet.........but good god are they proud of them:o


~Nick

personally i would prefer the Michelin XL's you can get some 53" w/ 90% tread for $150.

I WANNA SEE PICS OF THE 54" ON A 3rd GEN CTD[guitar]

personally i would prefer the Michelin XL's you can get some 53" w/ 90% tread for $150.


I think anything over 40" tires are useless for wheeling......now mud that is a whole different story, but wheeling that big of tire would be hard not to break stuff.

Mud I'd say the bigger the better......them 53" bad boys would be ideal for that!


~Nick

I think anything over 40" tires are useless for wheeling......

~Nick

Yikes, I'm going to just have come right out and disagree with that statement!!

Try telling that to the rest of the Eastern boys rolling on 44's....bigger tires will drive over bigger objects with more clearance - it's that simple.....Out in these parts and in the Appalachian mountains (where I frequent), wheelbase and big tires are the rule and not the exception for the hardcore crowd.....there is terrain that is mostly impassable if you are not on 44's. I'm running on 40's and seriously considering the jump to 44's because I'm getting left high and dry from time to time chasing after the big dogs....I'm not into mud bogging - just hardcore trails that have it all....

Stock Rockwells shafts arent going to hold up to those , they will need to be upgraded.

Stock Rockwells shafts arent going to hold up to those , they will need to be upgraded.

Hello Ouverson? I have a feeling that company is about to grow big time......they seem to be the only game around for the ultra trick Rockwell hard parts.....Forged Chromoly 2" 47 spline axle shafts, billet 47 spline lockers, billet 47 spline lock outs - very cool stuff....it looks like it would cost about the same to build a pimped Rock as it would a pimped D60.

Yikes, I'm going to just have come right out and disagree with that statement!!

Try telling that to the rest of the Eastern boys rolling on 44's....bigger tires will drive over bigger objects with more clearance - it's that simple.....Out in these parts and in the Appalachian mountains (where I frequent), wheelbase and big tires are the rule and not the exception for the hardcore crowd.....there is terrain that is mostly impassable if you are not on 44's. I'm running on 40's and seriously considering the jump to 44's because I'm getting left high and dry from time to time chasing after the big dogs....I'm not into mud bogging - just hardcore trails that have it all....


I know people think I'm a retard for saying that but in my opinion they are just way to big for me........they only way I would ever run those is if I had a complete tube buggy where I could keep the center of gravity low and then MAYBE I would think about it. Most rigs these days you have to lift so high to be able to clear that massive tire, that they get so dang top heavy and I personally don't like that feeling when I'm crawling over rocks.

I had to lift the heck out of my XJ to be able to fit 35"s under it let alone 44"s.......that thing would sit so freakin tall it'd be scary. Now the way I have it now I can fit bigger tires with no more lift......but that's because I have no body on it.

I'll stay with some 40"s thanks!!!


~Nick

I know people think I'm a retard for saying that but in my opinion they are just way to big for me........they only way I would ever run those is if I had a complete tube buggy where I could keep the center of gravity low and then MAYBE I would think about it. Most rigs these days you have to lift so high to be able to clear that massive tire, that they get so dang top heavy and I personally don't like that feeling when I'm crawling over rocks.

I had to lift the heck out of my XJ to be able to fit 35"s under it let alone 44"s.......that thing would sit so freakin tall it'd be scary. Now the way I have it now I can fit bigger tires with no more lift......but that's because I have no body on it.


~Nick

I'll stay with some 40"s thanks!!!
i will agree w/ you. in colorado, there would be no need for huge tires. like you said, it would make the center of gravity too high when your crawling rocks. in Texas, on the other hand, (specifically the gulf coast) there are no rocks. we have thick boggy mud. we need tall tire to get our axles out of the gook. if you look at an average off roader in florida, it has rockwells and 50"+ tractor tires.

i will agree w/ you. in colorado, there would be no need for huge tires. like you said, it would make the center of gravity too high when your crawling rocks. in Texas, on the other hand, (specifically the gulf coast) there are no rocks. we have thick boggy mud. we need tall tire to get our axles out of the gook. if you look at an average off roader in florida, it has rockwells and 50"+ tractor tires.

Oh heck yeah, the south man has some wicked mud!!! It's pretty rare out here to see many guys running more than a 40" tire.....sometimes a 42" but those are usually on the buggies. A lot of trails out here have some HUGE rocks, but you can usually pick a nice line and make it over them fine.......I've made it over a lot of nasty rocks with my dinky 35"s, just took some finess.


~Nick

Nick,

To a point, I agree with what you are saying......the successful trail Jeeps that run 44's are not lifted high at all....they are as low as reasonably possible.....my Jeep on 40's with no top is the exact same height as my 3500 (which is stock). Usually, the trucks that are jacked to the moon are the full size trucks on 44's that shouldn't be on the tough trails anyway - I leave the mud bogging to them. As you aptly pointed out, your truck is not the best candidate for 44's - there just isn't the room to accommodate them without the truck being far too tall to be useful on tough trails.....just remember that there are trucks that can fit them without being tall. Since the purpose built crawler tires do so poorly in terrain they weren't intended for and the IROK is the only tire offered in sizes over 40", you will have a tough time talking most of us in the East out of our Swampers. The Swamper is our version of an "All Terrain" and excels at operating in a variety of conditions we encounter unlike the crawler tires designed for crawling in the western terrains.

Oh by far the swampers are the best all around wheeling tire you can get!! I've had many sets of TSL, SX's, radials, and now SSR's on the Dodge, and I've loved every single set!!! I've just never had anything over a 38" tire.

You make a good point that there are some rigs that can fit massive tires without much lift at all, but most of them are full size rigs like blazers and broncos. A lot of trails out here are a major PITA with a full size rig so most of us usually stick to the Jeeps and Toyotas and have to suffer with not being able to fit as big of tire. Although you can fit some massive tires under CJ's and wranglers like yours.

If I did a lot of multi puropose wheeling, then that'd be a totally different story on tire size and tread type, but pretty much all I do is rocks and more rocks and a lot of very tippy trails where height will screw me.


~Nick

Man, I remember wheeling the Rubicon, Barret Lake, and Fordyce back in the 80s with my longbed 82 Yota on 33's......and that was considered a BIG tire. LOL. I couldn't imagine trying to wheel a 40" tire through any of those trails. There are spots that you can't even get an original Bronco through because it's too wide. I know there have been guys on the trails in fullsize rigs runnin large tires like that, but thier rigs look like they've been put through a rock tumbler, and to me, that's no fun. What good is wheelin a big rig if you're just gonna smash the body to bits. I always preferred driver ability over smashing the pedal and getting through it at all costs. And that's what alot of the fullsize rigs have to do.....to a certain extent anyway.

i think that they should be at least 21 inches wide

iirc they are 54x21

on the link on the first page they say that they a 19.5x54x20

i myself am thinking of getting the 54's for my dodge, and a buddy of mine is for sure getting a set for his new 6.0 f-350. the only thing im worried about is price on the tires and the extra 4-6" of lift im going to need. btw, will these also be DOT approved.

i myself am thinking of getting the 54's for my dodge, and a buddy of mine is for sure getting a set for his new 6.0 f-350. the only thing im worried about is price on the tires and the extra 4-6" of lift im going to need. btw, will these also be DOT approved.

Well, good luck fitting them.....and yes, the 54's are DOT approved like all of the other Boggers.

Well, good luck fitting them.


what kind of problems will i have trying to fit these? im working on another 6-8" lift, and my truck will clear 42's already and 44's will clear the fenders, but i need rims with less backspacing cause they will scrub up front. i figure that my buddy will be able to clear no problem. hes ordering 18" of air lift, and then somthing like 6" of body/spacers/blocks.

you could always just build a four link for your truck and the run some stiff coilovers. But i would get some good sway bars because that heavy cummins would get to rockin that high up

im thinking of getting air springs for the rest of the lift. a buddy of mine did a 4" air lift, and loves it. he says it rides and drives like a dream, so i was thinking of going that route on top of what i have already.

what kind of problems will i have trying to fit these? im working on another 6-8" lift, and my truck will clear 42's already and 44's will clear the fenders, but i need rims with less backspacing cause they will scrub up front. i figure that my buddy will be able to clear no problem. hes ordering 18" of air lift, and then somthing like 6" of body/spacers/blocks.

Hmm....all that lift just sounds scary to me.....any kind of measurable perfromance will go down the tubes. I take it these trucks are just for show? You are going to need one heck of a lot of axle gear and a 1 ton driveline with a Cummins won't begin to deal with 54" Boggers in an offroad environment. To each his own, I suppose.

IMO, 54's are just way too big for the average rig....I think they will best be suited to competition bogging mobiles or low slung buggies with 2.5 ton drivelines.

And without trying to come off sarcastic-like, I don't profess to know exactly what is required in the way off lift and wheels to make 54's fit on a Ram....the simple answer would be: A lot of everything!;)

yea, there alot of measuring/fitting/refitting, thats gonna go into it. mines not a "show truck", it will get drove a few times a week, and my buddies will get drove daily. im still not 100% if i want to invest all that time and money yet. mines nice the way it is, and 54's will make it almost impossible to drive on the road. on the other hand, my buddy just walked into $4.7 million, so hes got money, time, and everything on hand to do whatever may need to be done to his. im not sure about jumping to 54's yet, but after i get out of school and another ride for work, they may be on the way. im gonna see how the work out for my friend.

I've got 44" boggers on my bush buggy {GM 1ton} with the D60 and 14bolt I would go much bigger or heavier if you're gonna make any sort of power. My stub shafts are upgraded to 35 spline and they're cryo'd. with detroits front and rear. I would worry all the time about breakage if they were any bigger.

You're gonna need the Rockwells. Only other option that would have a chance of surviving would be D80 rear and Dynatrac D80 front with all of the upgrades you can think of. If you ask me you are gonna need alot to make those fit. Besides that you are gonna have one heck of a time getting your driveshaft angles manageable.