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Old 06-11-2007, 12:14 PM
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I get tired of this....

I think there should be a sticky thread for newbies to our diesel hobby. Just to protect those who don't know the dangers that lurk from modding a turbodiesel. I've been posting on another forum to a guy, who may be here also, about the problems he just had. He was/is running a TST box with a Smarty, I believe. With a stock turbo. And someone gave him the advice that if he was dragracing, to just mat the throttle. Well he saw 1600+ egt's well before the end of the quarter mile and we all know what happened. A big mess of oil and fragged turbo. Hope he didn't do any other damage. But there is alot of bad advice out there. And I recieved posts back from my advice that stated, "Well he was racing, so he has to go WOT the whole way.." ??? People in general are sometimes very ignorant.
Enough of my rant...
Old 06-11-2007, 12:21 PM
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I hear ya! I am guilty of mine own ignorance too. But, that's why I come here to learn... some good ol' fashioned common sense has to be in play as well. You can lead a horse to water, but...
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exactly, if he had a gauge which he obviously did if he saw the temp he should have had enough sense to get out of it.
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You cant fix stupid...

Seriously though, I think we have all pushed the envelope on some things we shouldnt have but I guess some just get a little greedy. I ran a tst and mp8 on my stocker but I keep it turned down to a safe level. The money for the tst would have been better put towards a turbo and just had a smarty and a turbo. I guess if no one made mistakes though we would never learn anything. Lets just hope somebody learns from this, I know I sure like learning from other peoples mistakes more than havin to make my own mistakes.
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Hey Will,
Just got a nice pint of ARP lube from Jetpilot... I'm only a few steps away from doing my studs...

And I just hijacked my own thread...
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Sometimes you have to take some reply's w/ a grain of salt. When you get similiar answers usually it's the right advice. I also have BIG BAD DODGE down the street from my fire station that I can ask advice on when I am on shift and my diesel mechanic (Ken Imler Diesel).
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Originally Posted by soulezoo
some good ol' fashioned common sense
the thing about that is that it is not all that common and usually doesn't make a whole lot of sense

no such thing anymore.
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I think it is a good idea. But how to include enough details of the current mods available would be a never ending task.

I think the normal, gauges first, tc/trans or clutch for xx hp level upgrades, etc. recommendations are fairly straight forward. Although it does seem like a number of owners, both new and old, seem to ignore what is inconvient to them.

There is a difference between the new user that sees the performance posts and wants the extra power without really understanding the consequences and the user that uses no common sense and just goes after all power available regardless.

Seems like a very difficult set of posts to make and maintain. Will always be someone that says "I did this and that without any issues". And they might have, but the next guy will nuke and engine doing "the same things".

Oh well, I am going to stop rambling now.
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Originally Posted by hovisimo
the thing about that is that it is not all that common and usually doesn't make a whole lot of sense

no such thing anymore.
Amen brother
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I know who you are talking about and he is here.....

You know though, you can blow up a stock motor while drag racing too so it's always a risk...
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I'm not knocking the guy who this happened to. I'm just tired of people getting bad advice and doing damage. It can happen to anyone, but if you take the time to do your homework, you stand a much better chance of not melting something. But there are some people that go around telling guys to put this box on kill and install this programmer on nuclear and mat the throttle...!!!
They have no clue that maybe they should ask the guy if he has the right mods to HANDLE that kind of heat.
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Well, when you think about it, we are all talking to people that we will probably never meet and we really don't know them at all. For some reason we will listen to them when they tell us what to do to our $40,000 trucks. Of course, when we break our stuff they are not around to come help us fix them... It has happened to me here before and I learned my lesson. I never even got an apology after taking this person's bad advice. There are many knowledgeable people especially on this site. You just have to figure out which ones really know their stuff and which ones are just spouting off what they have read others say. I'm one of the latter ones.....

The guy you are speaking of has a really nice truck and I hope he gets it fixed without too much $$$ out of his pocket.
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Is this him? https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=154835
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I cant wait to see how it goes with the studs.

RWB4, I have learned from your mistake of blowin a freeze plug. Not sayin I wont blow one but I can tell ya it wont be the rear one. Thanks again for savin me some grief.

It seems (to me anyway) that the point of the post isnt that somebody broke their truck, thats gona happen if you push it hard enough no matter what mods you do or preventative steps you take. It is about people giving bad advice. I am sure we have all done it but there could be some serious motor damage to a very nice truck that could have been avoided if maybe someone had just said, "do you really think you should dump THAT much fuel through a stock turbo, on the drag strip?"
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[quote=wap;1548337]You cant fix stupid...

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stupidity is fixable, it comes from lack of knowlage.

ignorance on the other hand........


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