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BigIron70
11-18-2011, 02:59 PM
SITUATION..
While driving on a rural end of the roadway on Thursday morning, I saw an infant car seat on the side of the road with a blanket draped over it.
For whatever reason, I did not stop, even though I had all kinds of thoughts running through my head. But when I got to my destination, I called the Canton PD and they were going to check it out. But, this is what the Police advised even before they went out there to check....

"There are several things to be aware of ... gangs and thieves are now plotting different ways to get a person (mostly women) to stop their vehicle and get out of the car.

"There is a gang initiation reported by the local Police Department where gangs are placing a car seat by the road...with a fake baby in it....waiting for a woman, of course, to stop and check on the abandoned baby.

"Note that the location of this car seat is usually beside a wooded or grassy (field) area and the person -- woman -- will be dragged into the woods, beaten and raped, and usually left for dead. If it's a man, they're usually beaten and robbed and maybe left for dead, too.

DO NOT STOP FOR ANY REASON!!! DIAL 9-1-1 AND REPORT WHAT YOU SAW, BUT DON 'T EVEN SLOW DOWN.
Even if you are armed there maybe more then one hidding nearby.
Oh yea, about the EGGS:


"IF YOU ARE DRIVING AT NIGHT AND EGGS ARE THROWN AT YOUR WINDSHIELD, DO NOT STOP TO CHECK YOUR CAR, DO NOT OPERATE THE WIPERS AND DO NOT SPRAY ANY WATER BECAUSE EGGS MIXED WITH WATER BECOME MILKY, AND BLOCK YOUR VISION UP TO 92.5%, AND YOU ARE THEN FORCED TO STOP BESIDE THE ROAD AND BECOME A VICTIM OF THESE CRIMINALS.

THIS IS A NEW TECHNIQUE USED BY GANGS, SO PLEASE INFORM YOUR FRIENDS AND RELATIVES.

THESE ARE DESPERATE TIMES AND THESE ARE UNSAVORY INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL TAKE DESPERATE MEASURES TO GET WHAT THEY WANT."

Please talk to your loved ones about this. This is a new tactic being used. Please be safe.

Blake Clark
11-18-2011, 04:32 PM
I would have stopped and checked....


Little did they know I would have been palming my Glock 27

;)


It would have gotten me back to the truck, where my Marlin 336SS 30-30 resides under the back seat.

Shorts
11-18-2011, 04:36 PM
Thanks for the warning. That's tough not to stop and check. It's a baby seat for goodness sakes! I stop for worn out dogs that have been dumped on the highway.

Shovelhead
11-18-2011, 05:08 PM
http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/carseat.asp


[laugh]

Blake Clark
11-18-2011, 05:10 PM
http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/carseat.asp


[laugh]

Shoulda known better....

BigIron70
11-18-2011, 05:19 PM
That didn't happen to me but it did a relative of mine, since I would have stopped. I did have similar experience once driving cross country. Lucky for me I had my German Shepperd with me, I stopped to read road map, no GPS back then. My dog started growling and as I looked up three guys are walking toward my truck from out of the darkness. I put truck in gear and took off. If it wasn't for my dog that night I really think I would not be here today.

trksrfun
11-18-2011, 06:34 PM
Im with Blake, Glock 23 on my side but now I know to be a little more cautious about the surrounds then normal when carrying, and I shall inform the girlfriend of this so she knows not to stop...

Shovelhead
11-18-2011, 06:42 PM
I would have stopped and checked....
Little did they know I would have been palming my Glock 27


"Tactial Tupperware" ........ [laugh]

Blake Clark
11-18-2011, 06:53 PM
"Tactial Tupperware" ........ [laugh]

Tupperware it may be, but my G23 was bought when I was 18, put a recorded 10k rounds through it before I went to the police academy. It was my duty weapon. Put 5k rounds through it during the 2 week firing range session. I know I have close to 100k rounds through that pistol and had one stovepipe. I honestly think that it was an ammo error too because the powder had a funny burn smell.

That round was fired during the academy on the range. The ammo was surplus department supplied. No telling where it came from. :(

6speedcowboy
11-18-2011, 07:09 PM
We have a big gang problem up where I live. When you see cars driving around at night with no headlights on you don't dare flash your lights at them

Shovelhead
11-18-2011, 07:14 PM
When you see cars driving around at night with no headlights on you don't dare flash your lights at them

http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/lightsout.asp

[laugh]

No dogging you about the choice of sidearms (much) [laugh]

The Glock has proven itself over time to be a fine choice.
Just tried one and decided I liked my 1911(s) better. ;)
Just picked up a Ruger GP100 in .357 to use as a "tractor gun".

Blake Clark
11-18-2011, 07:18 PM
Oh trust me, my 1911 is my favorite of all. But the dept wouldnt let us carry a single action cocked and locked. So Glock it was.

Scotty
11-18-2011, 07:33 PM
I have a little bit bigger Tupperware container...my Model 20.

True story...

Home invasion tactics of a certain race was to send a young innocent looking girl to the door of the home of some senior folks. People as old as Lary or maybe not that old. LOL
Back to the story. The girl would tell them that her car broke down and she needed to use the phone...of course most folks would invite her in and the gang would storm their place...beat them and steal all they could.

They tried this in Calgary when I lived there. My neighbor Bob had diabetes and he was older. Young girl rings the doorbell.
He answered, she told her story and he had her by the throat with his tupperware aimed at her head while his wife called 911.

The reason I mentioned his diabetes was because he had had an insulin reaction earlier that day and this same girl helped him into the house. He was still coherent enough to hear her say; "We should come back later, he's drunk and will pass out."

He thought about not answering the door and letting them break in...then let them have it...but he was too angered and did not want his wife exposed to what he had in mind. She was still upset with him for what he did but the home invasions in our area stopped.

True dat...no snopes.

A Rem 1187 super mag is nice to have around the house too.

Totallyrad
11-18-2011, 08:45 PM
In reality, everything mentioned here has happened. The baby doll in the car seat rouge has been used successfully, but the car seat was left in a shopping cart in a parking lot. Other tactics include a note under the wiper blade stating something like "I hit your car today and damaged the right front fender. Here's my name etc etc etc." The natural reaction is to get back out and look right then. When you do, you're toast.

Lary Ellis (Top)
11-18-2011, 08:49 PM
Oh trust me, my 1911 is my favorite of all. But the dept wouldnt let us carry a single action cocked and locked. So Glock it was.

Nothing looks as sweet in a holster as a 1911 with the hammer back :drool:

annabelle
11-18-2011, 08:56 PM
They have been using a different tactic in Texas.....they just kick the front door in and storm the place.......older lady in San Antonio had an answer to two that tried her house........she killed one with a shotgun blast, and sent the other one running. Fortunately they caught the survivor........keep um locked and loaded and easily available.

Blake Clark
11-19-2011, 04:17 AM
Nothing looks as sweet in a holster as a 1911 with the hammer back :drool:

Oh I argued and argued and argued and argued and argued the point. Even tried to negotiate for extensive training for those that wanted.

No dice.


The 1911 to me is the perfect weapon. Its beautiful, handles like a dream, and is its own toolbox. Nothing can come close to Browning's little piece of perfection there. Not to mention it hurls houseblocks at ~ 1000fps.

Jim Lane
11-19-2011, 05:36 AM
http://www.snopes.com/crime/gangs/lightsout.asp

[laugh]

No dogging you about the choice of sidearms (much) [laugh]

The Glock has proven itself over time to be a fine choice.
Just tried one and decided I liked my 1911(s) better. ;)
Just picked up a Ruger GP100 in .357 to use as a "tractor gun".

You cannot believe everything Snopes says, I believe they have been proven to not check out all of the stories.

The do not flash your headlights at oncoming cars, we were told is true by the Los Angeles County Sheriff, we live outside of Los Angeles and we are plagued with gangs who WILL shoot you just for removing their tagging, there are driveby's all the time in the LA area.

Years back about 5:00 A.M. I had a teenage girl screaming and pounding on my front door trying to get in my house because some guy was trying to pull her into his car and my house was the only one with the porch light on, she had to run about a block to get here, there was a trail of her books and clothes down the street.

My H&K fits alot better than my Colt.

Hvytrkmech
11-19-2011, 08:24 AM
Nothing looks as sweet in a holster as a 1911 with the hammer back :drool:

Yes siree, a real heavy real soldiers weapon. [laugh]

Shorts
11-19-2011, 08:32 AM
Oh trust me, my 1911 is my favorite of all. But the dept wouldnt let us carry a single action cocked and locked. So Glock it was.

Blake, show them the video of the DEA agent who was "the only one professional enough" to carry a Glock [laugh]


I love me some cold 1911 steel nestled in my leather.

Shovelhead
11-19-2011, 08:37 AM
You cannot believe everything Snopes says, I believe they have been proven to not check out all of the stories.

The do not flash your headlights at oncoming cars, we were told is true by the Los Angeles County Sheriff, we live outside of Los Angeles and we are plagued with gangs who WILL shoot you just for removing their tagging, there are driveby's all the time in the LA area.

Must be a "Local" thing........ Oh that's right it's Cali .... they believe in law abiding citizens Gun Control.... criminals, notsomuch.[laugh]

Off Duty
11-19-2011, 09:17 AM
Oh I argued and argued and argued and argued and argued the point. Even tried to negotiate for extensive training for those that wanted.
No dice...

We (all of that were instructors) tried the same arguments years ago.
"They" decided (before "they" started purchasing our weapons), that we all needed to be alike. The theory was, so we could share weapons/ammo in a firefight.....yea, right.
Let me see. The last time I needed a buddy to "throw me another mag" was.....uh, oh yea....NEVER![laugh]

It's a common "administrative" disease. Ocular-rectalitis I believe?

Blake, show them the video of the DEA agent who was "the only one professional enough" to carry a Glock [laugh]

[laugh][laugh] Oh heck no you didn't go there![laugh][laugh]

That was the funniest video I've ever seen!

I happen to know the attorney who repped him in his lawsuit against the DEA and others for "defamation."
He claims that as a result of the "leak" of the video by his agency, and it's subsequent viral nature, he can "never work as an undercover agent again," and that it has damaged his credibility and ability to teach off duty...

Really? No crap?:rolleyes:

Here's a hint cowboy....if you want to work UC, don't go around in public teaching classes! You never know who you'll meet there;)
Oh, and don't shoot yourself in the leg teaching "gun safety" genius.
It has a tendancy to "ding" your credibility just a tad:evillol:

The last part about teaching reminds me of the end of a Jimmy Buffett Song...(Buckwheat voice on- u'll neber wok in dis bidniz again!)[laugh]

annabelle
11-19-2011, 12:00 PM
I had a mentally disturbed young lady (18) show up on my porch one early morning ( 3:00AM ) a State Trooper came and took her back to her Grand Mother. A pervert had picked her up from a town about 15 miles away and had brought her out to farm country to try and rape her. Left her stranded when she fought back. I did open the door, but I had an H&K in my hand.

ChrisJohnson
11-19-2011, 12:08 PM
I don't want to start any trouble, but here's what I think. Guess I'm just old school!

ChrisJohnson
11-19-2011, 12:10 PM
And this is what I'm thinking I want for Christmas!

http://www.the-m-factor.com/html/specs_11.html

Blake Clark
11-19-2011, 12:17 PM
Blake, show them the video of the DEA agent who was "the only one professional enough" to carry a Glock [laugh]


I love me some cold 1911 steel nestled in my leather.

AxWWJaTEdD0


You and I need to talk... I need a nice piece of cow for my 1911

6speedcowboy
11-19-2011, 12:33 PM
You cannot believe everything Snopes says, I believe they have been proven to not check out all of the stories.

The do not flash your headlights at oncoming cars, we were told is true by the Los Angeles County Sheriff, we live outside of Los Angeles and we are plagued with gangs who WILL shoot you just for removing their tagging, there are driveby's all the time in the LA area.

I've seen the no headlight here several times. Driving down dark country roads at night and pass cars filled with "delinquent" looking kids that stare you down as they drive by. Parents work on the farms and the kids run with the gangs. 14 year old kids killing people in drivebys. I really need to get my cap.

patdaly
11-19-2011, 06:42 PM
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No dogging you about the choice of sidearms (much) [laugh]

The Glock has proven itself over time to be a fine choice.
Just tried one and decided I liked my 1911(s) better. ;)
Just picked up a Ruger GP100 in .357 to use as a "tractor gun".

HEY! Did you see Ruger just released a GP101 with an 8 round cylinder?

Me likey!