rogerL1961

I know its not really flipping the axles but actually putting the springs on top...

Good Idea or no?

I have read all the former posts...

Looking for some fresh input....

My rear end on my Rampage seems to be a bit low and it hits the ground in places.....

JuzPlaneKrazy

If your OK with bed clearance now at least you'll have more after flipping the axles.
A few things to think about is what your total height will be after, and the loss of stability from raising the trailer, plus the bigger footprint into the wind.
The thing I hate the most about flipping the axles, is the ugly Baby Buggy look some trailers get.

Jeff in TD

Yeah, it can look out of proportion on some trailers... Mine I don't think looks too bad.

Overall, I'm happy with the results.

I'd suggest purchasing new spring perches from a trailer place or on line, as opposed to cutting off and relocating the stock perches. That way you can leave the stock perches on and put it back if you don't like the results.

Those spring seats are cheap enough it isn't worth the time to make them, and also with the stock ones on the bottom of the axle you have a place to jack to in a pinch, though I prefer to lift by the frame.

Anyway, I didn't notice any decrease of stability or any drop in mpg when towing, but then I'm not the type to push the limits on corners while towing...


The other alternative would be bigger tires/wheels, which might make sense money wise if you need to replace tires anyway, and have the clearance.

rogerL1961

Anyone have pictures of a raised toyhauler?

I have to make my decision by the Morning.....

Jeff in TD

I don't think I have any in my gallery, and if I uploaded some I'd have to wait for admin approval...

Shoot me a PM with an e-mail if you would like a couple shots of mine.

WestTN

I did mine when I bought the truck in my signature. I too, thought it would not be as stable. I was wrong on that one. I adjusted my Reese hitch to level the trailer and it is the most stable of any I have ever pulled.

I theorized that raising the trailer allowed the air pressure from passing semi's had a better escape route under the trailer than when it sat lower. It is a real dream to drive now.

Jchavez

I had them, flipped when I bought this trailer last year.Have had no issues at all.Very stable and now have plenty of clearance.Old trailer didnt have them flipped and there was no difference in the way the two pulled

Jeff in TD

Upon further inspection, it turns out I do have a shot of my 5th wheel after it was flipped in my gallery...

1KhakiMegaCab

I too am thinking about flipping my axles and was wondering about the brakes. Is there anything you need to do to them, or can you just flip, does it depend on the brakes and the setup you have?

Chris

Jeff in TD

You don't actually "Flip" the axle. Since they have a bow in them that flattens out under load, the axles need to be kept right side up when relocated from above to below the spring pack.

You need to attach a new spring perch to the top of the axle, that locate on the bolt in the center of the spring pack, and just put the U bolts and base plate on the other way. There is a bolt on kit from Dexter that locates to the stock spring perch, but the weld on ones are cheaper, and I feel more secure.

Anyhow, brake wise, the only thing you might need to do would be extend the wiring. Mine had plenty of spare slack, though, so all I had to do is just hook the wires back up when I put the axles back in.

Two tips I could think of on that:

First, the wire on many trailer brake systems has two layers of insulation on each wire, the inner layer being kind of translucent. If you didn't know it was there, you could think you had the wire stripped when it wasn't.

Second, don't use those little clip taps on something as critical as trailer brakes. Either use the nice crimp connectors that have the heat shrink seal, or solder and shrink tube the connection. IMHO you will have a more reliable connection that won't corrode or pull apart that way.

1KhakiMegaCab

Thanks, because i didn't even think about the bow in the axel. That being said, it would be easier to weld on new perches.

I was looking under there this afternoon and it does look like i have plenty of wire, and i do agree that on brakes you shouldn't go cheap.

Thanks

NJMurvin

A couple of things not mentioned here that I noticed after doing mine:

PROS - Sits up nicely, better ground clearance for backing up over curbs etc, easier access to dump valves, stabilizer jacks etc as they sit up higher, nice bed clearance.

CON - First entry step is pretty high off the ground. So, I have to try to line it up with the slab just right or add a step on the ground. They make steps with more spacing between. I'm just too cheap to change it out.

Other than that, no complaints. I don't notice any instability. Extra wind resistance? I'm sure it's there. But it would be difficult to measure its impact on fuel consumption. I doubt if it's significant.

rogerL1961

Well, i flipped my axle and I love it. It pulls just as good as before...didn't effect my gas mileage, it looks great.........

So nice I went through a creek over the weekend and didn't even worry about hitting the back end. I would recommend flipping the axles.....Well, i had it done and of course they don't really flip the axles. They welded perches on top....moved some wires and whatever all else they did they did a nice job. I paid about $300 bucks to have it done....For me that was a deal cause I dropped it off, picked it up and it was done....