View Full Version : Everybody loves carnage!!! DD15
1-5-3-6-2-4
05-08-2009, 09:43 AM
as far as we know through the factory, the 1st catastrophic rod failed DD15 is right here in calgary Alberta. in a 200 hour 2008 Western Star. this was already 3 months ago, but heres the pics I got.
sorry camera phone is the best i could do
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/DD1503.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/DD1501.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/DD1505.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/DD1504.jpg
AH64ID
05-08-2009, 09:50 AM
EDIT I bet that was loud
Russ Roth
05-08-2009, 09:52 AM
That's sure not a very good advertisement for that engine. Company I used to work for had a series 60 blow the crank out the bottom so bad you could look across at the steer tire on the other side. :o:o:(:(
mrush99
05-08-2009, 08:35 PM
WOW!!! That is the worst thing ive seen so far for the new dd15. Most catastrophic thing ive seen down here was the Fuel filter housing cracked due to it freezing solid.
han solo
05-08-2009, 08:48 PM
Our shop has repaired so far on the dd15, 3 air compressors, 2 high pressure fuel pumps, 1 water pump, 1 wrist pin failure. Give it time, will show its ugly head like the MBE engines.
1-5-3-6-2-4
05-09-2009, 01:39 AM
everything has a failure rate, its what keeps me working. I don't mind the 4000 and 900 MBEs pretty easy to work on, depending on what chassis its in though. Ive done a lot of MBE 4000 turbo failures. and at $3900 bucks a pop no labor they're not cheap.
heres one mbe 4000 compressor wheel explosion.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/Work%20stuff/MBE4000turbo.jpg
series 60 pre-EPA'04 - pulled the turbine wheel out of the bottom of the stack . and to be perfectly honest. the compressor side spun free no axial or radial play. didn't touch the housing. to look at it you'd never know there was carnage on the other side. [laugh]
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/Work%20stuff/Garrettturbofailure002.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/Work%20stuff/Garrettturbofailure-1.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/Work%20stuff/Garrettturbofailure003.jpg
complaint was exhaust leak............
[dummy]
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r193/demon_044/Work%20stuff/Detroit60manifold.jpg
lovinCTD59
05-09-2009, 04:26 PM
HAHA that first turbo pic looked like my stocker did when it went to the rest home.... At least it sounded pretty cool when it let go!!
cincydiesel
05-15-2009, 08:36 PM
I like the hole in the exhaust!!
J Lent
05-15-2009, 10:48 PM
Ouch. I'd like to know the price of those parts/labor.
Riflemanusmc
05-16-2009, 10:05 PM
HLS............man what happened? Other than what the big hole. Not YET seen that down here. Had one come in last week with a bad injector. What a PITA to overnight a new one from DD.........
Some of the abuse tests we run at the Tech Center occasionally have some pretty amazing carnage. Of course, nothing I'm allowed to show (or even have pics of), but it's impressive damage.
Sometimes we get overspeed engines that don't make it. It's designed to be a "gee, I wonder if it can survive this" sort of test. Any time your are running an ISX at 150% of rated redline rpm for over 100 hours you can sometimes see big booms.
Yes, 3K + rpm in an ISX. Ouch!
DmaxEter
06-25-2009, 10:21 PM
Heck, they all break! This one was from neglect! This is just one of many I have seen. I had one that the rod cut the block in two. the head was all that was keeping the block together.
1-5-3-6-2-4
06-29-2009, 02:46 AM
HLS............man what happened? Other than what the big hole. Not YET seen that down here. Had one come in last week with a bad injector. What a PITA to overnight a new one from DD.........
was apparently knocking, then kablam. barfed its guts out. DD air freighted a whole engine in. took like 4 days to get it. I'm pretty sure they pulled it right off the assembly line.
1-5-3-6-2-4
06-29-2009, 02:51 AM
Our shop has repaired so far on the dd15, 3 air compressors, 2 high pressure fuel pumps, 1 water pump, 1 wrist pin failure. Give it time, will show its ugly head like the MBE engines.
in addition to the blowout we've done 1 HG, 1 head R&R. and some other minor odds and sods. It pulled heavily on the MBE family in the design features for sure. but I think it'll be a good one in the long run.
han solo what shop do you work at?
RamW350 dually
07-04-2009, 04:03 PM
Jeez, that's something else about the DD15 damage. I work for a Freightliner dealership in Lancaster, PA and two weeks ago I did a PDI inspection on a brand new 2010 Freightliner Cascadia daycab with the DD15. It hasn't been the first time I've seen or worked on a truck with the new engine and I do have to say they are quite as anything. Really something else for a diesel engine, but now a days everything is quite with the DPF exhaust setups and state of the art fuel injection. Now that I've seen one that had this kind of damage I wonder how well they will turn out for use in the heavy trucks. Either way I'm a fan of the older mechanical diesels always, even if we are talking about the big engines!
Sal
1-5-3-6-2-4
07-04-2009, 09:17 PM
I believe these are a solid foray into the EPA '10 realm. this one must have been assembly or hard parts failure. I'd say not the norm for sure. I mean a 15L Detroit with bosch common rail injection, we must be in the 21st century.
matte
07-07-2009, 01:04 AM
just got done replacing a high pressure fuel pump on one of those gems today on a schnider truck that just had a engine swing done last week(not sure of where) the factory wanted the origanal engine to tear apart for inspection from how i understand it, here in altoona we havent seen many of them yet, i repaced an injector on a DD13 last month(what a pain in the *** to deal with those non english speeking tech support) to be honest we dont even see much EPA "07 stuff yet, I"ll tell you what i"ve done more headgaskets on MBE 4000,whats really fun is to tear it apart right after you fire it up b/c when they had the whole this headgasket supercedes this one and so on, they sent some back that where marked ok, im here to tell you, they sure as **** werent(after i miced them out the new crush part hadnt been crushed) and we get lots of EGR coolers on MBE900 and high oil consumpstion, nothing to cool yet, i've been there about a year, seen to trucks lock up on the dyno
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