$oC@l CTD

If I do the "Hot" upgrade on my Edge, will a good torque converter and valve bodies hold it just fine if that is all I do to it for a while? I have big plans for the truck, just not right off the bat anymore. I want to work into the bigger numbers more gradually. I will be deploying in the next few months and just don't see any point in getting a full built tranny and having 6-9 months of the warranty flush down the toilet while the truck sits and isn't even making the numbers to NEED a fully built tranny...opinions?

t-boe

If you don't flog the heck out of it, it should be fine. Just be careful and don't do any boosted launches or alot of drag racing.

$oC@l CTD

Well heck, that sucks...I planned on going to the strip at least a couple times...nothing too serious. Just to race a couple of my buddies. I guess that I could do a roll off the line launch, rather than boosted, but that would just defeat the purpose of racing them!

$oC@l CTD

So the stock input and output shafts just can't take only the ONE programmer? That's REALLY weak internals if you ask me. I can see the need for a good TC and VBs, but you REALLY need to go billet, even for just ONE programmer? How is it that you need full billet for 800hp but you also need billet for in between 400 and 450? I guess I just don't see how one programmer can be THAT violent to a tranny with a stout TC and VBs?

t-boe

Well Omaharam is running just a TC and VB and he's in the mid 500's. I just say add some billet so you don't have to pay more later. It's more of a piece of mind thing. If your input or intermediate goes it'll take out a good portion of the tranny. If the output goes it won't do anything but cost you the time to replace it. Try just a TC and VB and see how it turns out. You might be able to get away with it since your not running really big numbers.

05CTDN8

I have heard of people breaking their case if they grenade the shafts bad enough. You dont want to do that!!!!! I went big from the start and got the I/O shafts

BigBlue

A converter and valvebody will hold a hot juice fine. I ran just a valvebody for over a year at 430hp with no problems and I've got a 47re. If you can swing it though, a billet input is a great piece of mind. I'm kicking myself for not doing mine. It went from costing me $700 to now costing $1200 because of the extra labor.

$oC@l CTD

So what would a good TC, VBs and a billet input shaft cost me to get put in that sucker...that should hold the Hot Juice and boosted launches, right?

omaharam

With the Hot Juice you can do about 8-10psi launches - at least I did with no problems. Even did 12-15psi a couple times on accident. I was still doing anywhere from 5-8psi with 500hp, but now at 547hp I am scared to try that. As soon as the pressure gauge starts to lift off the rest, I let off the brake. I am getting a billet input and stronger steel flexplate in another week or so. Of course that is along with injectors, which will put me over 600hp. Guess we'll see how she holds together - I still probably won't do anything over 15psi.

$oC@l CTD

You mean with just valve bodies and torque converter?

omaharam

Yes. That is what I meant and is what I was doing.

Also, forgot to mention that while a lift pump and modded cp3 would help with the Hot upgrade, it is not imperative. The Hot Juice will not drain the rail. I ran mine with a pressure box for quite a while before I did the pumps.

Mcmopar

I told you!!!!

$oC@l CTD

Do you think that if I stacked the EZ on the Hot Juice for pressure that I would be cutting things too close with just the TC and VBs?

Mcmopar

With stock shafts you need to stay away from the boosted launch, I have seen the outputs break at a shade over 450.