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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Can i pull engine, t case, and 518 tranny, all in one go? I have an engine hoist that is rated to 4,000 lbs. Also, where is the best bolt locations for the hoist? I have a four chained leveler for the hoist. Thanks guys.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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With a hoist that big I dont see why not. The motor isn't over 1500#'s and there is no way the trans is t-case would be 3500. Just making it sit level will be a PITA.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Thiss
Can i pull engine, t case, and 518 tranny, all in one go? I have an engine hoist that is rated to 4,000 lbs. Also, where is the best bolt locations for the hoist? I have a four chained leveler for the hoist. Thanks guys.
The weight is probably good, the problem will be length and balance. I think you would need to pull the grill and all. Much easier to pull the TC then the Tranny, or at least the TC...IMHO...Mark
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Yeah, never gave pulling the front end a thought. That is going to make quite a bit easier. What I would do is support the trans on a jack, get the engine as far foward as you can. Run an extra chain from the lift to the trans to keep it from tipping then pull it the rest of the way. If you have the big leveler, then once the extra chains connected you can still drop the t-case down to clear whatever you need to, it will just keep it controlled a lot more.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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they make a thing for pullin engines thats called a load leaveler or somthing like that, where you can adjust the engine and trans to come out at an angle, i pulled a 396 ci with a t400 on it all at once with the hood still on a 69 chevelle, those things work good.

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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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Are you sure you can lift it straight up initially, high enough for the rear of the oil pan to clear the crossmember, with the bell housing still attached?
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:26 PM
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Are you sure you can lift it straight up initially, high enough for the rear of the oil pan to clear the crossmember, with the bell housing still attached?
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That is what I have ran into. I didn't try really hard, but it seemed the bellhousing was in the way.

Now if you have the cab off, go for it.

Also remember that 4000# rating is probably with the lift arm all choked up.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:33 PM
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I have only messed with 4wd's, maybe on a 2 wheeler there is more room for extraction? (different engine crossmember)

The other PITA I have ran into is that most cherry pickers do not go high enough to get that tower of power over the rad. support. I have found it is easier to just pull the support out before trying to pull the motor. Someday I will have an overhead hoist.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by torquefan
Are you sure you can lift it straight up initially, high enough for the rear of the oil pan to clear the crossmember, with the bell housing still attached?
x2. When I pulled the motor and trans to get my 47rh out of a 94 2nd gen, the oil pan hit the crossmember and the bellhousing hit the cab. Luckily the truck was wrecked and the guy was just gonna scrap the frame so we just cut the crossmember out but I don't think it woulda fit otherwise. That is a 2nd gen though, not sure if it'll fit through a 1st gen. I would think you would atleast have to divorce the transfer case and drop it and then pull the motor and trans through.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 02:44 PM
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The transfer case is so easy to pull off, I think I would remove it before the attempt.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 92smokin blacky
x2. When I pulled the motor and trans to get my 47rh out of a 94 2nd gen, the oil pan hit the crossmember and the bellhousing hit the cab. Luckily the truck was wrecked and the guy was just gonna scrap the frame so we just cut the crossmember out but I don't think it woulda fit otherwise. That is a 2nd gen though, not sure if it'll fit through a 1st gen. I would think you would atleast have to divorce the transfer case and drop it and then pull the motor and trans through.
x3, it will not clear with the trans atached, i have tried, however, if you pull the oil pan/pick up tube off the engine, it just might make it, but you are also going to have to remove the coresupport
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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I lifted min all in one piece for my rc. The hook goes right over the back cylinder. I did it with no cab or core support. Be very careful rolling the hoist with the engine/trans/t-case. I would not even try to move it side to side, just front to back. It gets pretty hairy when the wheels on the lift come off the floor.

Notice I did not extend the boom on the crane. It looses capacity as you extend it.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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Has anyone tried to pull it with the front suspension fully drooped? I never thought about the oil pan hitting, but If you remove the front tires and let the front axle drop all the way down, with the frame supported by jack stands. I think you could get it all to clear.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 09:36 PM
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remove the radiator support for sure. i couldn't lift it high enough to clear. I also removed the T-case.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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I don't know about 4wd's, but I know my cab had to come up to get my oil pan off the truck. If you pull the rad support off, you only have to loosen the other 4 cab mounts enough to separate it from the chassis. I personally would pull the t-case just because it's extra weight on the back end. Just my .02.
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