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Boredexec
09-06-2005, 10:40 PM
Has anyone tried this? If so, comments please...
http://www.dieselsecret.com/
torquefan
09-06-2005, 11:16 PM
I had a look at the website, I'm kinda interested, but a little skeptical. Making biodiesel, the lye/methanol reaction is needed to remove glycerines from the oil. Without doing this, the engine will still run fine, but you will do long-term damage. Does this product actually remove the glycerines, or is it just "snake oil" and we won't find out until the injectors and rings start to get plugged up? I may buy it and see what the video has to say. It's just a bigger ordeal to have anything sent up here from the US.
hardyhindle
09-07-2005, 09:09 AM
I just read their entire website myself. I'm emailing them with a few extra questions, such as cold weather compatability, and whether their additive does remove the glycerins... Also curious if it can be used as heating fuel, be nice for the oil furnace in the garage..
torquefan
09-07-2005, 10:08 PM
I just read their entire website myself. I'm emailing them with a few extra questions, such as cold weather compatability, and whether their additive does remove the glycerins... Also curious if it can be used as heating fuel, be nice for the oil furnace in the garage..
I'd love to hear back from you with whatever they said.
TIA,
Dave
jrs_dodge_diesel
09-09-2005, 05:32 AM
Any update on this. It definetly has me interested.
2500Ram
09-09-2005, 04:54 PM
For $40 I just might order it. I have a friend who's a manager at a local Outback Steak House I can get oil from. Let me mull this over for a few days.
**edit** I also just emailed for more info on the gelling in the cold months and removing the glycerin's from the WVO.
Will keep everyone posted.
2500Ram
09-09-2005, 05:27 PM
I just found this on the site after reading everything twice. Maybe everyone else missed is as well. I talks about home heating, gelling everything asked in this thread.
http://www.dieselsecret.com/feq.htm
akghound
09-10-2005, 11:02 AM
Here are some very informative posts on this Snake oil:
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/159605551/m/7481055401/r/9091085401#9091085401
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/4511077101/p/1
http://www.frybrid.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1416&highlight=diesel+secret
Ken
dspencer
09-10-2005, 11:54 AM
Snake oil, it appears to me. The easy part for me is when I was told that they add 1 1/2 gallons of GASOLINE to a tank of fuel. If you want to shorten the life of your IP then this sounds like the stuff to do it with.
Boredexec
09-12-2005, 04:32 PM
I really appreciate everyones 2 cents. And thank you AKGHound for the extra links.
My question is has anyone tried it yet. I could care less if they make money on the stuff if it works. I am mainly Edit off at our governing administration for letting this oil thing get way out of hand. And, for anyone who actually believes we have an oil shortage in the world today, I may be Edit at you too - lol.
BoostdCTD
09-13-2005, 02:56 AM
Snake oil, it appears to me. The easy part for me is when I was told that they add 1 1/2 gallons of GASOLINE to a tank of fuel. If you want to shorten the life of your IP then this sounds like the stuff to do it with.
Well if anything that adds more credit to it, I'm still not convinced of this product by any means but gasoline cuts the glycerin in WVO much better than diesel does. As long as you don't go wild with the mix and keep the octane down it is quite doable to run on a Gas/ WVO mix, there is a guy on that infopop site who runs his Pherd down into the 30Fs just on that mix!
dspencer
09-13-2005, 04:57 PM
Well if anything that adds more credit to it, I'm still not convinced of this product by any means but gasoline cuts the glycerin in WVO much better than diesel does. As long as you don't go wild with the mix and keep the octane down it is quite doable to run on a Gas/ WVO mix, there is a guy on that infopop site who runs his Pherd down into the 30Fs just on that mix!
I am not an expert. I listen to what I read and have read many many threads about gasoline mixed with diesel in a diesel engine. I have read Bosch's opinion on gasoline as well as Cummins as is used in the 5.9 thats in the Dodge truck. I have never read anywhere that it is safe to run any amount of gasoline in the mix over an extended period of time which is why I think that it would be foolish to do so. But that is just me.
I am curious how long that truck running on diesel/gasoline mix ran without having IP problems. Twenty or thirty thousand miles on that mix would not be the test......if he ran that long and having the IP pulled and opened up and showed no dramatically increased wear might change my mind but my money is still that it is risky bordering foolish to do it because I know someone else that trying to....and 1 1/2 gallons gas to every 35 gallons of diesel is pretty wild in my mind.
BoostdCTD
09-13-2005, 11:27 PM
Diesel has far less lubrication than WVO, gasoline has very little lubrication traits to it so mixing it with WVO helps compensate.
The guy does it year round, I don't recall how many years he has been doing it for. I'm not so interested in the IP wear, much more so on how he starts it up cold in the morning when 35*F outside! Let's say hypothetically the IP is wearing rapidly with this mix, and that you're using say 20% gas mixed in. So now you're saving 80% of your fuel cost at $3/gal for let's say 15k/yr for 30k miles... $3600 can easily buy a whole new injection system. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting trying it I'm just saying it is possible. Would I do it in my truck? No way. Would I do it in my Mercedes? Maybe.
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