Diesel fuel additives
06-24-2012, 12:51 PM
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Diesel fuel additives
Hi all I am think of getting some of this diesel additive OPTI LUBE XPD Diesel Fuel Improver amd was wondering if anybody on here has tried it and if so how do you like it does it do what the web site says it will do thanks in advance
06-24-2012, 02:55 PM
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I have no experience with the aforementioned treatment but I second the Power Service....great stuff.
06-25-2012, 10:16 AM
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From> Chevron Diesel Fuels Technical Review
"It would be convenient for the user if a finished diesel fuel could satisfy all of his or her
requirements without the use of supplemental additives. Although this is most often the case,
some users require additional additives because the low-temperature conditions in their
region are more severe than those for which the fuel was designed or because of other
special circumstances. Other users feel that they will benefit from using a diesel fuel with
enhanced properties compared to using regular diesel.
A large number of aftermarket additive products are available to meet these real or
perceived needs. Some are aggressively marketed with testimonials and bold performance
claims that seem “too good to be true.” As with any purchase, it is wise to remember the
advice, caveat emptor, “let the buyer beware.”
It may be helpful to regard additives as medicine for fuel. Like medicine, they should be
prescribed by an expert who has made an effort to diagnose the problem, as well as the
underlying causes. Additives should be used in accordance with the recommendations
of the engine manufacturer, and the instructions of the additive supplier.
Sometimes, indiscriminant use of additives can do more harm than good because of unexpected interactions."
"It would be convenient for the user if a finished diesel fuel could satisfy all of his or her
requirements without the use of supplemental additives. Although this is most often the case,
some users require additional additives because the low-temperature conditions in their
region are more severe than those for which the fuel was designed or because of other
special circumstances. Other users feel that they will benefit from using a diesel fuel with
enhanced properties compared to using regular diesel.
A large number of aftermarket additive products are available to meet these real or
perceived needs. Some are aggressively marketed with testimonials and bold performance
claims that seem “too good to be true.” As with any purchase, it is wise to remember the
advice, caveat emptor, “let the buyer beware.”
It may be helpful to regard additives as medicine for fuel. Like medicine, they should be
prescribed by an expert who has made an effort to diagnose the problem, as well as the
underlying causes. Additives should be used in accordance with the recommendations
of the engine manufacturer, and the instructions of the additive supplier.
Sometimes, indiscriminant use of additives can do more harm than good because of unexpected interactions."
06-26-2012, 09:17 AM
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I'm a firm believer in Power Service. I can definitely tell a difference in the way my engine idles when I do and don't use it. No treatment= slightly rough idle. With treatment= super smooth idle....mileage increases a little as well.
06-26-2012, 05:59 PM
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holly cow infidel i just asked if anyone has tried this stuff i did not expect to get a lecture on weather we should or need to use additives a simple yes or no answer would have worked
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From> Chevron Diesel Fuels Technical Review
"It would be convenient for the user if a finished diesel fuel could satisfy all of his or her
requirements without the use of supplemental additives. Although this is most often the case,
some users require additional additives because the low-temperature conditions in their
region are more severe than those for which the fuel was designed or because of other
special circumstances. Other users feel that they will benefit from using a diesel fuel with
enhanced properties compared to using regular diesel.
A large number of aftermarket additive products are available to meet these real or
perceived needs. Some are aggressively marketed with testimonials and bold performance
claims that seem “too good to be true.” As with any purchase, it is wise to remember the
advice, caveat emptor, “let the buyer beware.”
It may be helpful to regard additives as medicine for fuel. Like medicine, they should be
prescribed by an expert who has made an effort to diagnose the problem, as well as the
underlying causes. Additives should be used in accordance with the recommendations
of the engine manufacturer, and the instructions of the additive supplier.
Sometimes, indiscriminant use of additives can do more harm than good because of unexpected interactions."
"It would be convenient for the user if a finished diesel fuel could satisfy all of his or her
requirements without the use of supplemental additives. Although this is most often the case,
some users require additional additives because the low-temperature conditions in their
region are more severe than those for which the fuel was designed or because of other
special circumstances. Other users feel that they will benefit from using a diesel fuel with
enhanced properties compared to using regular diesel.
A large number of aftermarket additive products are available to meet these real or
perceived needs. Some are aggressively marketed with testimonials and bold performance
claims that seem “too good to be true.” As with any purchase, it is wise to remember the
advice, caveat emptor, “let the buyer beware.”
It may be helpful to regard additives as medicine for fuel. Like medicine, they should be
prescribed by an expert who has made an effort to diagnose the problem, as well as the
underlying causes. Additives should be used in accordance with the recommendations
of the engine manufacturer, and the instructions of the additive supplier.
Sometimes, indiscriminant use of additives can do more harm than good because of unexpected interactions."
I would agree that regular use of fuel additives is not required. If it were you wouldn't see guys running to high miles without issues.
Infrequent use (i.e. once every few months) of fuel system cleaner may be beneficial though.
11-12-2012, 02:13 PM
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At the same time, it wasn't til a couple years ago that fuel had tons of extra lubricating qualities, which aren't there anymore.
11-12-2012, 05:38 PM
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I've used many brands and to date haven't seen any improvement in performance,fuel economy. Interstate trucks run hundreds of thousands of miles using straight diesel so...?
11-12-2012, 06:20 PM
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I've used several big name diesel additives for 40 years and they all get me 1/2mpg. I've switched with and without additives several time to make sure the 1/2 mpg is consistant and not my imagination. So... it usually takes ~30 gal/tank x .5 = 15 miles. That's .79 gal for me x the cost of 1 gal of fuel. The additive almost pays for itself plus I get the lubricity that Cummins mechanics and fuel shops have told me is needed. I would say to try it and if it doesn't improve mpg, try another one. LE DCI+, Schaeffers and Stan. PF have all given me .5 mpg. I only buy it by the case to really get the cost down. Craig
11-13-2012, 12:16 AM
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I have used Power Service since the government made the switch to ULSD. Mainly to help preserve my vp44.
Dad always ran Redline in his '80 Mercedes 300SD. He sold it at 280K and it apparently went 1 Million miles on the original engine. Not sure if it helped or not, just consistently used for the first 280K
For the cost and peace of mind I am ok with it in my 2001.5.
Also, without doing a complete tear down and inspection, or an oil analysis series in the least, it would be hard to say if the internals are benefiting, in which case you would also need a baseline truck to run similar to yours.
As for Infidel's response, at least it was thorough and well written....
Dad always ran Redline in his '80 Mercedes 300SD. He sold it at 280K and it apparently went 1 Million miles on the original engine. Not sure if it helped or not, just consistently used for the first 280K
For the cost and peace of mind I am ok with it in my 2001.5.
Also, without doing a complete tear down and inspection, or an oil analysis series in the least, it would be hard to say if the internals are benefiting, in which case you would also need a baseline truck to run similar to yours.
As for Infidel's response, at least it was thorough and well written....
11-13-2012, 05:06 PM
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What I've read just last week is that as far as lubricity goes we're better off with ULSD.
With ULSD there is a government mandated minimum lubricity obtained by use of additives at the refinery.
With the low sulfur diesel we had before there was no minimum, you got what you got and sometimes it was lower than the new minimum.
With ULSD there is a government mandated minimum lubricity obtained by use of additives at the refinery.
With the low sulfur diesel we had before there was no minimum, you got what you got and sometimes it was lower than the new minimum.