CUMMINS VS. POWERSTROKE
04-19-2003, 07:06 PM
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CUMMINS VS. POWERSTROKE
This is my first diesel. My friend has a 2001 Powerjoke and all he talks about is how his has more torque and more hp. I have heard that Cummins is still the best and I need the best argument I can find. I know mines better, but help me out guys.
04-19-2003, 08:56 PM
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Your Cummins has a median-to-failure rate of over 450,000 miles. His PSD has a median-to-failure rate that is less than a third of yours. He'll be on his third PSD when you're just beginning to think about trading yours in for another CTD. <br><br>Show him the famous photo comparing Cummins rods with PSD and Chevy rods. <br><br>ascraeus
04-19-2003, 10:12 PM
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Cummins has seven main bearings if I remember right. How many does the Ford have? In all fairness, they are both good engines but the Cummins is a medium duty engine and the Ford is a light duty also if I remember right.
04-19-2003, 10:54 PM
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Here's your ammo:<br><br>Fact: The Cummins is officially rated as a "medium" heavy duty engine, whereas the Powerstroke is rated as a "light" heavy duty engine. In other words, the Cummins is rated as being a heavier duty engine.<br><br>Fact: Ford uses this same Cummins engine in their bigger, heavier trucks like the 600-700 series, which will be used to pull heavier loads for more miles than what our pickups will typically see. If the Powerstroke were indeed the better/stronger engine, wouldn't Ford use it in the bigger trucks instead of the Cummins? Sure they would, but they know better.<br><br>Fact: The Cummins engines will need typically need rebuilt when they get 600,000-800,000 miles on them, and there are many trucks that have gone even further without incident. The Powerstroke will need rebuilt at 300,000-400,000 miles max.<br><br>Fact: Ford wanted to use the Cummins in their pickups also, but they were not allowed to use them due to contracts already signed between Chrysler and Cummins.<br><br>Chris
04-19-2003, 11:41 PM
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FACT: It is a pointless argument.
FACT: You have the truck you want.
FACT: He has the truck he wants.
FACT: If he wants to go on and on about HP and torque and whatever ad nauseum, he probably measures his you know what every morning too. IOW he is a pinhead who likes to ramble, let him.
FACT: You have the truck you want.
FACT: He has the truck he wants.
FACT: If he wants to go on and on about HP and torque and whatever ad nauseum, he probably measures his you know what every morning too. IOW he is a pinhead who likes to ramble, let him.
04-20-2003, 05:02 AM
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OK, please keep it friendly here guys. Truck and oil brand discussions usually go south quick so lets keep it civil and somewhat professional.<br>Thanks.
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I think any diesel is superior to a gas truck. I appreciate the powerstroke but I just happen to like the cummins better--make that much better!!! I've owned both so I have a base for comparison. ;D
and YIPPEE! I finally lost my 'noobie status' ;D ;D ;D
and YIPPEE! I finally lost my 'noobie status' ;D ;D ;D
04-20-2003, 06:06 AM
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I like both. My brother just bought a PSD 6.0, says he loves it. I love my Cummins. We're both happy. Oh yeah, my Dad owns a Duramax. <br><br>I figured I'd mention this ahead of time as well, FORD doesn't own Cummins. Didn't want that argument to get out there ;D<br><br>Good job so far, let's continue to keep it clean. 
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a good friend of mine has a 99 PSD...it's a nice running engine and very powerful, it doesn't get the gas mileage mine gets and he's had a few problems (ie: waterpump, problems starting in cold) but it pulls well and shifts nice...he often was surprised mine was sluggish compared to his however the low end torque on mine was deffinitely greater he even admitted (and mine sounds cooler)..well, now he's 
...due to recent upgrades, he now see's thee old DODGE tailgate when the light turns green!!! but in all fairness, it is a nice, sturdy truck.
...due to recent upgrades, he now see's thee old DODGE tailgate when the light turns green!!! but in all fairness, it is a nice, sturdy truck.
04-20-2003, 08:06 AM
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[quote author=dieseldude4x4 link=board=8;threadid=13798;start=0#129874 date=1050808365]<br>Cummins has seven main bearings if I remember right. How many does the Ford have? In all fairness, they are both good engines but the Cummins is a medium duty engine and the Ford is a light duty also if I remember right.<br>[/quote]<br><br>Cummins Main Bearings 7<br>Powerstroke Main Bearings 5
04-20-2003, 08:33 AM
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Load up a trailer the way your buddy wants it loaded, then hook his up to the trailer and have him pull it up a hill. Clock his time and speed. Do the same with the Cummins, note time and speed, and amount of black smoke. Nuff said. ;D
04-20-2003, 12:36 PM
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The Cummins as supplied to DC for our use is still seriously detuned from its capabilities in other service - and being a medium duty engine instead of light duty, it's capable of CONSIDERABLE power upgrades while still maintaining excellent reliability and engine life - engines like the PS and Duramax can be improved to a degree as well - but not as much, nor with anywhere NEAR the long term reliability of the Cummins - go to any truck pull competition and see which brand dominates the competition, go to a dyno competition, and you will see the same thing - the Cummins excells in power AND reliability in ways the competition can't match!<br><br>Your buddy can be proud of his Ford - they're good trucks - and WE have absolutely NOTHING to be ashamed of or make excuses for in ours!
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