View Full Version : A couple dually questions

10-04-2002, 07:30 PM
Howdy yall.<br> I've been lookin to trade in my truck (A 97 F-350 crew cab 4x4 with the PowerStroke) for a dually. I never gave any thought to anything other than a Ford untill today. I have a flat tire so I used a friends truck to take a trailer with 6 head of cattle for a little 120 mile drive. His truck is a 2000 extended cab Dodge dually with the Cummins and 5 speed tranny. Anyway, I was real impressed with how it pulled and handled on the road. His truck is stock besides an exhaust system. It's sharp looking, all red, even the bumpers and grill. He installed a set of factory flip up towing mirrors.<br>Well, I've decided to try and find a similar truck to replace my F-350 PSD. I prefer the same body style as my friends, that newer one is hideous in my opinion, but I'm not here to bash trucks. I'd like to get some information on the type of truck I'm interested in. <br><br>One thing I'd like to know is what type of rear axle this truck uses and what gear/traction control configurations were available on the duallys.<br><br>Also, I've been told that the cylinders in the Cummins are sleeved, is this true?<br><br>Another thing I'd like to find out is if they are sleeved, then coolant addatives are not necessary correct?<br><br>What is the oil change interval and how much oil does the I6 use?<br><br>I know that fuel milage is totaly relitive, but what kind of #rs are folks seeing.<br><br>I appreciate any help yall can hand out.<br>

10-04-2002, 07:35 PM
I'll try and answer as much of this as I can. If someone else out there knows more than this, or if I say something wrong, please correct me. <br><br>The rear axle on the 2002 and under 3500's I believe is a Dana 80. You can get them in 4.10 LS, 4.10 or 3.55 I believe. <br><br>I don't know about the cylinders being sleeved, but I do know that you do not need a coolant addative.<br><br>I change my oil every 5000 miles but I think most people are going every 3000. I use Shell Rotella 15-40. I have had no problems with this interval for 90k miles now and the truck runs great.<br><br>My mileage in town is about 16-17.5 empty. On the highway, right around 20 and 13-14 pulling a 9-10k 5ver (depending on gear).<br><br>I hope this helps. I know there are folks on here who could give a much better answer than that, so I'll wait for them to chime in.<br><br>By the way, welcome to the site!!!!! Good to have you.<br><br>Jack

10-04-2002, 07:45 PM
Welcome to DTR,<br><br>I haul cattle daily with mine daully and love it. <br><br>To answer some of your questions my rear end is a 3.55,<br><br> I change my oil and filter every 3000 miles due to the work load,<br><br>The fuel mileage depends on alot of thing for me. When I haul in the backwoods of Ky I have to take it slow so my mileage is good. For me I can haul 26 feeder cattle with an avg weight of 500#s and get about 15-16 miles to the gal. On the highway with that same load running hard I get about 14-16 miles to the gal. Hauling in start and stop traffic I get about 11-12 miles per gal with that weight.<br><br>I took 16 steers in the 400 weight filled up in Cynthiana and went to Lexington then filled back up once I got back to Cynthiana with a 66 mile range and took $5.66 to fill truck. That load took me 2 hrs from Cynthiana till I got back to Cynthiana, all on a two line road. About 8 miles in start and stop traffic.<br><br>Know understand that I make my money getting as many loads per day in as I can so I do run my truck hard. Fuel mileage is not good when you leave your foot in it all the time.

10-04-2002, 07:49 PM
my truck is still stock for now, but will be getting an Edge EZ, boost and EGT gauges soon like in a week or two I hope. ;D<br><br>then I will be looking at fuel mileage more.

10-04-2002, 07:50 PM
I'm seeing around 15 mpg around town and 19 or so on the highway at 60 mph.<br>The cylinders are not sleveed, if they were you would need additive to prevent cavitation erosion.<br><br>My '99 has the 4:10 gear and unless I'm mistaken you couldn't get the 4:10 without getting the LS carrier.<br><br>I change oil (synthetic blend) at 7500 to 10,000, but change the oil filter at 1/2 intervals and top off with fresh oil.<br><br>Welcome ;D <br>Hope this helps.

10-04-2002, 08:04 PM
The cummins is not sleeved.. and that is why you dont have to worry about cavitation and dont need to add the SCA's... <br><br>From looking on the 3rd Generation boards a while back, I think the 2003 dually comes with the 3.73 as the standard rear.. the 4.10 is optional.. <br><br>

10-04-2002, 08:13 PM
A big thanks to those of yall who have replied. I've been looking on the websited of some of the local Dodge dealers and have found a couple trucks I'd like to go look at tomorrow. The info you've given will surely help me look less ignorant ;D ;) <br><br>This truck was my first diesel. I've had it for a few years and have learned the PSD pretty well, it's kinda weird changing gears so drasticly, you gotta relearn everything all over again. I can tell yall and this site will be a big help. Thanks again.<br><br>Hey Cattle Hauler, I dig the mud flaps! ;)

10-04-2002, 08:18 PM
Hey Cattle Hauler, I dig the mud flaps! ;)

Thank you, I was hauling down I-75 the other day and saw a 18 wheeler pulling a Wilson Brand Cattle trailer and had the same mudd flaps on his cattle trailer.

The one on my passenger side for some reason stays black on the right side of the steer head. ;D ;D

10-04-2002, 08:37 PM
Sounds like a good excuse for a set of stacks to me!!! ;D

10-04-2002, 08:42 PM
I plan on putting a flatbed on in the next month or so, I am getting tired of working around the daully fender while hauling and have already checked into getting stacks. I like Dieseldudes stack setup on his truck.

10-04-2002, 08:43 PM
Would there be more work that would have to be done on a flatbed then the regual bed?<br><br>I would have to drill two holes in the flatbed if I wanted daul stacks, with a reg bed you only have to drill one hole for daul stacks. :P

10-04-2002, 08:44 PM
hey and welcome,<br><br>We just recently bought a 2002 quad cab dually two wheel drive auto slt larimie plus, it has the 3.55 dana 80 which is standard on auto's. I love the power this thing has, we haul horses around and usually get 14 to 17 mpg towing around 7000, and 17 mpg driving. The rear end in mine has the anti spin diff in it. I am going to do a schedule of 5000 on oil changes and tire rotations. Love this engine too, not sleeved, no need for additives. Aint it grand ;D<br><br>As i have read and been told, get some gauges, get a EZ or a comp, get an AFE or K&amp;N, new tranny and you'll be all set. [laugh]

10-04-2002, 10:53 PM
BJK:<br><br>Welcome to the site! You will find a lot of good advice here. I don't believe that anyone answered this for you: the Cummins takes 11 quarts, with filter change. I have the truck you see in my sig. I get around 15 in town solo, and 17 on the highway. I get about 11 towing an 11,000 lb fiver. High profile trailer, with a lot of wind resistance. You won't be sorry investing in a Dodge/Cummins. I've had Ford, GMC, and now my baby. The only thing I liked better with either truck was the Ford crewcab had more interior room. But then it was 18&quot; longer, and had a much wider turning radius.

10-05-2002, 05:59 PM
Hey there Ted and DPG, thanx for the welcomes and the help with my questions.<br><br>I went and looked at a few trucks today but nothing caught my eye. They were all good trucks, but none were close enought to what I want. One came real close except for the color. It was white, my past 4 vehicles were white and I want a change. Maybe red, or blue, or green, or black.....just not white.<br><br>There are a couple million &quot;show me your truck&quot; threads out there, but how bout one of just duallys? I've seen Cattle Hauler's rig (very nice I must say, cant wait to see the flat bed!!!) and I'd like to see some others too to see how yall set them up. I already know I want a headach rack with the diagonal oval lights, and a tool box of course, but I'm not too sure what I'd like to do about bumpers. Anyway, I'd like to see how yall are setting up your duallies if you dont mind. :D But then again, if your anything like me, another chance to show off your truck is more than welcomed!! 8) ;D ;)

10-05-2002, 09:25 PM
My truck is getting ready to go though a big change<br><br>Getting an Edge Ez<br>Boost &amp; EGT Gauges<br>Gooseneck Brand Flatbed<br>Jacobs Jake Brake (thanks to DieselDude4x4 for his time showing and explaning the Jakebrake and giving me a ride in his truck and showing how to ues it.)<br><br>Then I will have the perfect Cattle hauling setup<br>

10-05-2002, 09:43 PM
Oh boy, now you did it! I didnt know a Jake Brake was available for these trucks :o Yet another benefit over my Ford (they dont make them for Fords). Now, you are talking about an actual Jake Brake right? Not just a regular exhaust brake? I know a lot of folks call them the same thing despite the major differance. Not trying to degrade you or question your knowlage, I just wanted to make sure before I get all excited about it!<br><br>You gotta tell me about it. Where can I get some info on it and maybe some prices too?

10-05-2002, 10:29 PM
BJK,<br>Jacobs does make a brake for the Dodge/Cummins, but I believe that it is an exhaust brake, not a true &quot;Jake&quot; engine brake like the big rigs. I've included a pic of my rig so that you can see what I've done. You can see in my sig what mods I have. If I can answer any other questions, feel free to IM or e-mail.<br><br>DeWain

10-05-2002, 11:10 PM
DPG, N I C E! How did you level yours out? I put those &quot;Velvet Rides&quot; on mine and the rear dropped a tad but another 1 1/2&quot; would make it perfect.<br><br>Mike

10-06-2002, 10:39 AM
DPG is right it is an exhaust brake not a jake brake.<br><br>Dieseldude4x4 sent me pics of his setup and if you PM him can send you some pics.

10-06-2002, 03:40 PM
Here is my monster... ;D Picture was taken before addition of ventvisors and diamond plate running boards...

10-06-2002, 05:19 PM

I didn't do anything special to the truck, I think it's just the 4x2 configuration. Also, the stainless running boards and air dam help give it the lowered look. It has stock suspension, with the camper and towing pkgs. It also has Rancho 9000 shocks.

Do you like the Velvet Rides? Do they help smooth things out when you are running solo?


10-06-2002, 07:56 PM
Hey DPG, that truck looks awful familiar. :)<br><br>You get that off Carl? If so, you got a strong rig there. :)