1BAD4X4

Okay guys, my numbers are dangerously low when I mash the go pedal... hell I don't even have to mash the go pedal...


I need to know what all I'd need to get my numbers up for the absolute cheapest and where to get them. I'm driving out to Virginia soon and I'll be pulling a trailer back. I need to get the FP up before I even think about going.



A holley red on the frame rail, what fittings and lines do I need? Also, its an intak relocation... how do I get it to work with out removing that?

Help and knowledge are much appreciated!

Mountaineer

Nothing wrong with this......

http://www.vulcanperformance.com/ser...er-Pump/Detail

Ben

I agree. Cant go wrong with Vulcan's stuff. Top notch guy to deal with also.

vzdude

You can try O'reilly's. They have a Walbro style pump that plugs directly in to the factory harness and has a braket built on it to hang in the original location. I just put one on my wife's uncle's truck, and it worked great. He doesn't have a pressure guage yet, but says "seat of the pants " dyno showed improvement! It was only like 140 bucks and fit directly on the factory lines too!

high bid

If you're going to use a Holley it needs to be the blue pump, not the red. The red is rated at 6psi vs. the blue at 14psi. Not that much diff in price. I picked up a new one on ebay for $75 and am going to install a baldwin spin on filter set up (pn 1311) with it. Total cost about $110. Not to hijack the thread but I just can't figure out where to locate it on the shortbed frame rail. By the trans, I'd have to cut the metal line, further up towards the orig LP it's easier by just cutting the rubber line but further away from the tank and higher up. Just some things to consider.

1BAD4X4

Does his truck have the in-tank relocation? If so, this might be the best route for the time being. Then later on, do it right. I like what I've read about HOHN's desired set-up.



Thanks for the input guys!

vzdude

Nope! This bolts up EXACTLY where the factory lift pump goes on the side of the block. Here......look at this!

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...hlight=oreilly

http://www.oreillyauto.com/EW3/Produ...&currentPage=0

Roadrunner

Put the pump on the frame back by the tank to make it work less and live.

Fishin2Deep4U

The cheapest option for a basic replacement pump is the Airtex I believe.

The Walbro pumps have a very picky warranty. So, consider the added cost of a prefilter when using that pump.

I don't like the Holley pumps at all, but that is my personal preference.

With any system, I would greatly recommend adding a Draw Straw or Draw Straw II depending on if you have the intank pump or not.

I would also add -8 line to the suction side of the pump, especially if coupled to the Draw Straw.

Dave

hink

First off, DO NOT use the Holley Blue if you have the in-tank (if i'm reading correctly, you do). I made my own "big line kit" with 3/8 hose from the tank (get the Dorman fitting to hook up to the tank--much easier) to the fuel pump and onto the filter and used Vulcan's 1/2 braided line from the FF to IP. I have the in-tank setup also.
I used a Holley red with the setup mentioned above and I see 15psi at idle 14psi cruising and as low as 10psi (with the Adrenaline on PL10). Not to shabby if ya ask me. I'll try to get a parts list for ya.

hink

BTW, the reason I said to not use the Holley Blue is beacause I think you'll have to much pressure (which my #'s verify) From what I could find is that the in-tank runs about 8psi, which would make sense cause the Holley Red is 7psi, and I'm seein about 15psi total.

hink

PARTS LIST FOR ADDING HOLLEY RED w/IN-TANK PUMP.
1-Holley Red pump
1-Dorman fttg. (to hook to fuel tank outlet-NO cutting of lines)
2-06 male jic to male 3/8 adapters (to screw into fuel pump---use 08 jic if using 1/2 line)
2-3/8 push lock 06 jic swivel (put in end of hoses to attatch to fuel pump fittings previously listed-Again, use 08 jic if using 1/2 line)
1-06 jic male x 12mm male adapter (screws into FF housing---08 jic for 1/2 line)
1-3/8 push lock 06 fjic swivel 90 degree (to attatch hose to FF adapter fitting---08 jic for 1/2 line---I used a straight fitting--a 90 will fit better)
12ft. of 3/8 fuel line. (had a little left over. better to have to much than not enough)
I used one of these http://www.vulcanperformance.com/ser...r-to-VP/Detail It comes with everthing to go from FF to IP.
Now, for wiring. I had a 5 post relay laying around and used that to power the Holley pump. I found the wire that powered the in-tank pump and used that for the trigger wire to trip the relay for the Holley and wired the power to the Holley pump accordingly, this way the Holley opertates the same as the in-tank pump.
I don't remeber how much I had in my home-made kit, but it wasn't much. I had a couple of the fittings left over from my race car so that helped. The Holley pump comes with it's own bracket, so no need to buy antoher one. I searched around on Ebay for awhile and found a new Holley Red for $78 shipped (pretty good deal). I chose the nickel plated fittings from Vulcan, regular brass will save you a little $.

Well, I think that's everything. I chose to buy everything from Vulcan, but you can buy most of these supplies from just about any high performance retailer. Hope this helps ya.

hink

Just some quick figuring here.....If you do the Vulcan big line kit and buy a Holley Red you'll have about $220, not including shipping. If you go the homemade route and buy a pump I think you'll be around $195 minus shipping. Might be just as well off to go with Vulcan's kit and buy a pump just so you know you've got everything you need. With buyin the pump real cheap, and I had enough of my own parts, it saved me about $50, so it was worth it for me.

1BAD4X4

Thanks a lot for the parts list.



I thought, or atleast the way I understood it was that you can have 25 - 30 psi but the VP44 will only take a certain amount of pressure and no more, but that it wasn't hurting the VP44 with extra psi. Is that incorrect?

91rangerturbo

Too much pressure can hurt the VP44 it will rupture seals inside it. Try doing a search. It has been covered before about the VP44 and How much fuel pressure.

I would be safe to say no more than 20psi and no less then 10psi.