Can't believe its legal
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Can't believe its legal
Ok so I was on. My way back from a test drive and saw what looked to maybe be a f550. Towing a 50 foot or better mobile home. What are the laws for moving those?
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If it were here in Florida, the truck would have to be registered for its GVW, tagged for its Gross Combined weight as a commercial vehicle, have an over length permit, if over length, over width permit most likely with escort.
This is similar to a Dodge 3500 towing a steel trailer weighing 10,000lbs, with 16,000lbs of vehicles on the vehicle.
Rated Gross Combined for the 3500 around 23,500lbs unless a 2010.
So the truck at an estimated 8000lbs with fuel plus 26,000lbs in load. Total combined 34,000lbs. (the ford F450 with the big rear is rated at 34,500lb combined) (Dodge needs to build a non commercial version of the 4500/5500 and rate it like the f450)
In Florida, as long as the truck is tagged correctly the DOT don't care. I never have understood that.
Dave
This is similar to a Dodge 3500 towing a steel trailer weighing 10,000lbs, with 16,000lbs of vehicles on the vehicle.
Rated Gross Combined for the 3500 around 23,500lbs unless a 2010.
So the truck at an estimated 8000lbs with fuel plus 26,000lbs in load. Total combined 34,000lbs. (the ford F450 with the big rear is rated at 34,500lb combined) (Dodge needs to build a non commercial version of the 4500/5500 and rate it like the f450)
In Florida, as long as the truck is tagged correctly the DOT don't care. I never have understood that.
Dave
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Its all about revenue, as long as your paying for the weight they usually do not care. Now with that being said they do make sure you are safe and not going over things like rear axle or tire capacities. The GCWR that is a "suggested" capacity by the oem never really comes into play. Myself I am plated for 36k combined on my mega, but I do watch my rear axle weights carefully and do my best to not surpass the 9350 pound rating.
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Its all about revenue, as long as your paying for the weight they usually do not care. Now with that being said they do make sure you are safe and not going over things like rear axle or tire capacities. The GCWR that is a "suggested" capacity by the oem never really comes into play. Myself I am plated for 36k combined on my mega, but I do watch my rear axle weights carefully and do my best to not surpass the 9350 pound rating.
Just for info for other persons, in Florida if your Private trucks curb weight is less than 7,999lbs, you can tag it for the GVW 11,500lbs (06 Dually) and show the bracketed upper weight (tag bracket 10,000-14,999lb) on the registration, and tow up to a combined 26,000lbs. Tag Costs $154.00
If your private truck is 8,000lbs or more you must register the truck as a truck/tractor using your combined weight as the GVW. So, to tow up 26,000lb
combined the tag would cost $ 287.00. Still non commercial.
What I can't get anyone at the DMV to tell me is the definitions of Curb Weight. Is it the weight on the title, in my case 7120lbs or the ready tow weight in my case is probably over 8000lbs. IE;
Truck Weight ready to tow less fuel, 8100lbs with passengers. (guess) Includes 18K Fifth Wheel Hitch, bed rails, Rino Bed Liner, TransferFlo 70gal bed tank and underseat stored items, fire exting, tools and odds and ends.
Fuel 712 lbs (90% load)
Turbo Wind 40 lbs
Generator 150 lbs
Trailer Pin Weight 2500 lbs
Trucks GVW 11,502 lbs Trucks rated GVW 11,500lbs
Trailer Weight 11,530 lbs less pin weight on truck 2500lbs Trailer GVW14030lbs
Total Combined 23,032 lbs
I've heard in PA, even non commercial trucks towing fifth wheels have to be tagged for the combined weight. So, it's still possible, tagged like I am, I still could be sighted in another state as a non commercial vehicle for not being tagged correctly. Seems to me it should be one policy for all states for non commercial vehicles.
Dave
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Well my truck is tagged at (vin tags) 26000 gcwr but its plated at 36000. So a cdl isn't needed since its under 26001 pounds. But if you run without a cdl then of course your limited to 26000 actual weight though.
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