Bulldozer

Just wondering if anyones running soydiesel and how they like it the local stations just started carring it and I thought I might run a percent of it with the regular clear diesel. Any pros and cons? Thanks

Redleg

So what do they charge?

Bulldozer

Right around 2 bucks a gallon, but most people are just running around 10 to 20 percent with there reg clear fuel and say its really a noticable difference. I don't know alot about it but monday I'm going to check into it. Jake

DF5152

[quote author=Bulldozer link=board=8;threadid=14838;start=0#139506 date=1053266431]<br>Right around 2 bucks a gallon, but most people are just running around 10 to 20 percent with there reg clear fuel and say its really a noticable difference. I don't know alot about it but monday I'm going to check into it. Jake<br>[/quote]<br><br>what kind of difference....your truck smells like a deep fryer

AlpineRAM

I dop not know about soybean fuel, but RME which is popular over here has a cetane number of 60-62 and better lubricity than standard diesel. This year it is mandatory for the oil companies to mix in at least 3% bio into the normal fuel, this amount will be increased annually. <br>I have been running my cummins on 100% RME but had to put in a bigger lift pump due to the higher viscosity of the RME- a mix of about 70% RME and 30% standard works really well for me. <br><br>Disclaimer: This is based on the fuels availlable in Austria !<br><br>AlpineRAM

damon_achey

So I didn't really read any negatives. Unless someone says otherwise with proof, I think I'm going to give this place a shot since they started selling it just a block away from me. Probably just mix it 20/80 with regular fuel at first just in case.<br><br>Damon

IWANNA12VALVE

On our farm we are using 2% soy oil to 98% #2 diesel(red dye-non taxed stuff). And I really like it. NO power loss, and they still smoke purty good when you dog 'em out and it lubes the pumps better so they last longer. Plus it is adding value to our soybean crop. I don't understand why we can't get a renewable fuels standard passed in washington. Soydiesel is a wonderful thing, and Ethanol too. I think that america could self support herself with these fuels and still have enough grain leftover to feed the whole country. We just need more facilities to produce the products...

DuaneWKKC

Was wondering if anybody has looked into tax benefits of running an alternative fuel?<br><br>Schaeffers oils offers a soy additive for fuel but cant get it in small containers yet. Here is their link<br><br> Schaeffers Oils<br><br>I am interested but unable to find soydiesel here in Central Ohio.<br><br>DuaneW.

drecu

Any Palce you can look up fuel stations thaty sell this stuff?<br><br>DRecu!

DF5152

check this out!!!<br><br>soy diesel vs bio diesel

AlpineRAM

DF5152: Anybody marketing the crude oil as &quot;Diesel&quot; is committing a crime against the customer. I have worked on conversions of diesel engines to the exclusive use of vegetable oil. Although these projects are very interesting, there are some major problems still present:<br>Injector corrosion, very bad burn with the standard diesel injectors, polimerisation of the engine oil due to blowby gasses. <br>One of the major issues was that in the transition phase when switching from standard diesel to vegetable oil the time when the stuff was mixed lead to very unhealthy effects on the engine. Since these fuels need a very different timing of the inj. pump to be burned efficiently we encountered very high EGTs while under a load with the mix. <br>One oil that gave the least problems was rape oil (crude). We tried soybean oil and were amazed by its negative effects on engines.(We didn't follow this path much further because soybeans don't grow over here)<br>We had good to results with Soymethylesther and reasonable results with soyethylesther. Best fuel over all was rapemethylesther. <br><br>Since only fluids that have certain properties may be sold as fuel over here I never thought that this kind of scam could be pulled off in the US. <br>As I remember the exhaust gas analysis I think that the US EPA or CARB would have a shoot on sight order for people using a crude vegetable oil mixed with either diesel or rapemethylesther in their vehicles. <br><br>I will have to excuse me for endorsing the use of this stuff. I always meant the transesterified veggie oils when I wrote &quot;biodiesel&quot; !<br><br>Worried about the effects <br><br>AlpineRAM

Lary Ellis (Top)

I put this on sticky for awhile as the comments Alpine Ram makes here are very important and anyone considering the use of these alternate fuels should take the time to read this.

DuaneWKKC

Here is a link to the national BioDiesel board, link is to an area that lists distributers and such.. Interesting reading, looks like they recommend B2 (2%) for max lubrication bennies at least cost. Anyway, here is the link.
BioDiesel buying guide


Edit: This site has lots of info.. not just where to by.

DF5152

Is soy diesel being marketed as a vegetable oil replacement or just another name for bio diesel. other than my previous post I can not find any other info that references the refining process of an organic based diesel with respect to the sugars that may form. Most of the info reads like an advertising ad. Anyone have any specific info on US bio-diesel or Soy diesel?<br><br>Dan

GrandpasRam

The Cummins web site has some FAQ threads on this topic, and bears reading before using &quot;bio-diesel&quot; or &quot;soy diesel&quot;. They address some of the points Alpine Ram made, and also identify possible fuel system seal breakdown caused by fatty acids in the vegetable oil base fuels. I had also thought about using some bio-diesel when available for the added lubricity, but after reading that info on the Cummins site several months ago decided against it for now. Instead, I elected to use a few lubricity additives in the fuel tank (Howes is what I'm currently using every few tankfulls). Because of possible acidity, it could imply more frequent oils changes as well. FWIW.