View Full Version : Anyone sell a fast idler for the 03's?
wizkid
12-23-2003, 01:16 PM
Does anyone use a fast idler for a 2003 CTD Standard Output Auto 4x4? Sure would be nice to flip a switch and keep my motor safe from the excessive cool down temps.
Thanks,
Eric
bulabula
12-23-2003, 02:17 PM
Yes there is, I found one in Canada; now that I think of it, there were a couple of Canadian companies. And you're in luck because its only for use on trucks with automatics. Neither one has one that will work with stick shifts yet. Unfortunately I don't have the url here at home. When I get to my other office I can put it up here if no one else has beat me to it.
dieselpilot1969
12-23-2003, 09:28 PM
got the url for fast idler yet ;D
bulabula
12-24-2003, 07:21 AM
got the url for fast idler yet ;D
Thanks for the reminder :)
Here's the place that I talked to:
http://www.dieselservices.com/webstore/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=177&CFID=218148&CFTOKEN=37 010889
and the second one (never did talk to these guys):
http://www.vmac.ca/throttle/index.htm
wizkid
12-24-2003, 02:20 PM
Thanks for the links. The $439 cdn, not sure what that is US but that sounds like a lot. Ouch!
I know this guy was making one for the 24v people so I will contact him about the 03's.
Harold Bowers (rvhvnfn@juno.com)
Thanks again! I appreciate it!! I guess I will just idle mine to death and trade in after 150,000 or so.
Eric
Patrick Campbell
12-24-2003, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by wizkid
Thanks for the links. The $439 cdn, not sure what that is US but that sounds like a lot. Ouch!
I know this guy was making one for the 24v people so I will contact him about the 03's.
Harold Bowers (rvhvnfn@juno.com)
Thanks again! I appreciate it!! I guess I will just idle mine to death and trade in after 150,000 or so.
Eric
This box looks very cool but too expensive for me. I was thinking about spending about $20 in Radio shack parts...
This has been discussed a lot... but none of us have gotten the guts to actually mess with any of the electronics yet ;) I think Santa is bringing a FSM to me... so maybe I'll figure it out after that.
roan65
12-24-2003, 10:39 PM
My dealer is going to be installing the Diesel services unit shortly. I called them the other day, and I believe the US price was around $320. My dealer installes there units on most of there diesels and the seem to work great!
Farmer
12-24-2003, 10:52 PM
It seems to me I read a post on TDR where someone had mentioned he had changed his cruise control to pull the throttle.[eyecrazy] It would be a nice way to set the fast idle.
Anyone else ever heard of this or am I losing my mind:( ???
Patrick Campbell
01-07-2004, 06:04 PM
Anyone checked out this thread on TDR ?
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=51150&perpage=15&highlight=high%20idle%20switch&pagenumber=3
bulabula
01-07-2004, 06:46 PM
Look how old that thread is.
Reminds of the old saying, "if something seems too good be true, it usually is".
jthorpe
01-07-2004, 07:10 PM
Yep, that's an old thread, and it appears to apply to the 2nd gen 24 valve engines. :(
Patrick Campbell
01-07-2004, 07:17 PM
It sure is old. Seems like a few guys are saying it worked though. Maybe they were just dreaming haha.
Has anyone tried putting +12 V to the PTO sense wire on an 03? For me it says it is circuit G113 to ECM PIN B38. Can't hurt anything to try it (but jeezus it is cold outside!!!).
jthorpe
01-07-2004, 07:33 PM
Well, here's this: http://www.vmac.ca/throttle/application_list.htm but it applies to 03-04 automatics only! [verymad] I did send them a message with the question about manuals. I'm hoping to hear something soon.
I have also been doing a lot of research on this, and cannot find anything that is built for 03-04 6 spds. Very frustrating.
jthorpe
01-07-2004, 07:46 PM
This http://www.kussmaul.com/highidle.htm is another place we want to keep our eyes peeled at because I talked to them recently, and they're in the process of developing an ECM hookup type high idler for our trucks. They said to call them back in 30 days and they'd give me a status. Nice folks. I've seen these in a lot of ambulances, and we have one in our comm truck, and in our trench truck.
bulabula
01-07-2004, 07:50 PM
I looked at the schematics a few weeks ago in the DRM, and (from memory) I thought there were a couple of APPS inputs (looked to be a matched pair), and both were the usual 0-5 volts signal devices. I thought that maybe those could be used to fool the ECM into applying throttle. Those circuits were all related to the throttle circuit. My thought was merely to apply throttle control voltage without having to move the pedal.
I've got an electronic twidget buddy who I may ask to see if he can find an appropriate connector plug with test leads so that I can feed it some low voltage and see if that makes a difference. I'd rather not start piercing wires or leaving a trail of "monkey business" in my truck if something goes awry. :o
The 12V PTO On/Off wire does make sense, but what doesn't make sense is why did DC include the wire in the harness if it serves no purpose?
NJ, I'm not certain that applying 12V will be harmful or not to the ECM. Would it be prudent to try a lower voltage first? If you do, try it in nuetral and with the parking brake engaged too. Taking SWAGs here now.
I do question the validity of some of those early posts. If it was indeed real, why couldn't the results be reproduced?
bulabula
01-07-2004, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Jack Thorpe
Well, here's this: http://www.vmac.ca/throttle/application_list.htm but it applies to 03-04 automatics only! [verymad] I did send them a message with the question about manuals. I'm hoping to hear something soon.
I have also been doing a lot of research on this, and cannot find anything that is built for 03-04 6 spds. Very frustrating. Yeah, I talked to them on the phone a couple of weeks ago. They said it'd be a few months at the earliest for the manuals.
Patrick Campbell
01-07-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by bulabula
I looked at the schematics a few weeks ago in the DRM, and (from memory) I thought there were a couple of APPS inputs (looked to be a matched pair), and both were the usual 0-5 volts signal devices. I thought that maybe those could be used to fool the ECM into applying throttle. Those circuits were all related to the throttle circuit. My thought was merely to apply throttle control voltage without having to move the pedal.
I've got an electronic twidget buddy who I may ask to see if he can find an appropriate connector plug with test leads so that I can feed it some low voltage and see if that makes a difference. I'd rather not start piercing wires or leaving a trail of "monkey business" in my truck if something goes awry. :o
The 12V PTO On/Off wire does make sense, but what doesn't make sense is why did DC include the wire in the harness if it serves no purpose?
NJ, I'm not certain that applying 12V will be harmful or not to the ECM. Would it be prudent to try a lower voltage first? If you do, try it in nuetral and with the parking brake engaged too. Taking SWAGs here now.
I do question the validity of some of those early posts. If it was indeed real, why couldn't the results be reproduced?
The FSM says to apply 12V to it to enable it. But then on another page of the FSM it says this input is ONLY used to tell the ECM that PTO has been engaged so that it'll temporarily shut down certain OBD 2 codes. So it doesn't sound very promising. Time to get the wood saw out ;)
Ram_Kevin
01-16-2004, 03:38 PM
Eric:
Check this site
http://cool-downtimer.com
Ram Kevin
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