ldzielak

Mine started out as a 62/65/13SS and I really liked it, just wanted more cooling up top. Figured with Cam and Flux 1.6 sticks, I could spool a 64 the same. With my tight TC, I have to take care not to smoke out intersections. And it feels like I can never get enough air. I did have a bent wastegate and HTT replaced the exhaust housing. Maybe it's bent again...

I'm thinking of going back to a 62mm. Maybe 65 turbine, doesn't have enough leverage to sping a 64mm compressor? I don't want anymore lag, so going to a 71mm turbine I don't think would be a step in the right direction. I know ED has a 68mm turbine, email Chris and Glen, but didn't get a response.

Anyone got advice on what I should do. I was a good daily driver and towing 7k with ease. Can't afford much still paying for the $17K engine rebuild from last fall.

I may try porting my stocker while I send this turbo out to be refitted. I can't find the pictures of what needs to be done, I know there were some a while back.

Lee

rip 112

I'd try a 62/71 anyways, I think you could spool it just fine considering your mods, and it will help keep you cooler up top. JMHO

KKB

I used to have a 64/65/13 and I did not like it. With what is in my sig. it was slow to spool very smokey and egt's were hotter than the stocker. I towed our 15k fifth wheel about 5 miles to my parents house and decided to take it off and sell it. Egt's were terrible towing. I was very disappointed since alot of people on these sites said it spooled fast and egt's were great. Some said it spooled faster than stock. Not on my truck. When it did spool hold on, it had alot more top end than the stocker, which was fun, just not what I am looking for at this point in time. I would like to try the 62/65/13 at some time to see how it does for me, maybe even a 62/65/12 since I do not want lag. Good luck.

ldzielak

Going to a 62/71 is not really an option, it would be almost more than buying I new turbo, swapping out both sides. I don't think I could get much for this turbo selling it, how can I when I can't say it's a great turbo.

Lee

rip 112

Yea I feel you.


THATS WHY I STRESS THAT SOME PPLS OPINIONS ARE DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS.

That's why I also stress that it is the buyers choice.

Ideally I would've thought the 64/65 would spool GREAT with extra fuel and pressure, and in my case probably would satisfy me, but thats because I really like how my 71 spools. Yes it is laggier than stock i won't deny that, but its spool pickup is abrupt once about 8psi and on my truck with the beta program I am definitely satisfied with it, especially considering I went from the he341. And everyone can imagine how QUICK a puny he341 will spool, can't expect a 62/71 to spool near that fast. Thats when you have to make sacrifices, going bigger will slow your spool down low but give you more capacity in the mid and high range.

A 62/65 may get toasty on your truck with what you have unless you run a decent program. Thats my only concern for you...but it would be the best choice for anyone who tows alot, small loads or large.

TexasCTD

Rick, he has an auto....so I think that makes a big difference. With a manual you can control the spool a little better, so I hear.

I have been debating what to get for years now...and have been frozen with indecision... Having a built auto, I can black out an intersection on a hot day with ease....even with the stocker....if im not careful.

I don't want to spend money right now....but I need more turbo. And when I do spend the money that I don't have....do I want to go ahead and get a small set of twins...(Nathan's stocker/s400 kit most likely)....or make due with a single for now and upgrade later or never. IM leaning toward a 62/65/13ss with an aftermarket exh. manifold currently.

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ModManiac

I like my 64/65/13ss but then again its also on a stick truck.

rip 112

Oh I know, but he also has some pretty extensive mods, mods that surpass me even though I have a 6spd. Its been said the 64/65 flows more than the 62/71, but I think its close. I think it'd react better egt wise. With the right combo of tuning I think he could get it to spool better too. just opinion though.

The good thing about your dilemma on turbos is that the 62/65 makes a great combo for twins as well as the stocker, so either way it'd be worth it in my book.

omaharam

What settings are you running everything on that your not happy with performance?

KKB

I totally agree with rip 112. It is totally up to the person and how they want the truck to run. I decided to buy my 64/65/13 after hearing how so many people said it spooled great, even faster than stock some would say. It didn't work that way for me. Not even close. daily driving was fine if you didn't get on it at all. Once you went 1/2 throttle, smoke machine. Towing the egt's wouldn't get below 1100 and would bury 1500 if I wanted to, which I didn't want to so it was very hard to even get up to speed. It was an easy choice for me to sell it and put the stocker back on. In my situation the stocker spools much better, Keeps egt's much lower, and just overall is better with my setup.

cquestad

I love my 64/65/13...

Don't know what to say...

nelrod

How about changing 64 wheel to a 62. I am totally satisfied with my 62/65 13ss, as I cannot live with lag. I tows great on my truck too. However, I do have a stick, so I don't know how it would act on an auto? It may be a relatively cheap option. Someone with more knowledge than me can maybe say if this would be a good idea or not.

jgiachino

Happy with my 62/65/13ss with auto...does smoke pretty good in arizona summers (110*+)...but rest of the year it's legit....and i have a tight auto.....that being said, it does lag more than stock, but not by very much....

ldzielak

This turbo started out as a 62/65/13ss and I really liked it. Spool was a little slower than stock, but then I added the TST and it was just fine, better than stock IMO. It towed really great too. I was a little dissapointed in the EGTs, they were still rather toasty, but I think most of that was the Diablo Predator/TST stacked. But for the monwy it cost I had expecting more cooling.

As a 64/65/13ss the smoke just never clears up 100%. At night there is always a haze. With my really tight auto, driving around town, it's easy to bog down 1500-1600 RPM and watch out for the smoke. Once I get 10-15 PSI it clears up some but not 100%.

I'm running TNT/R level 3, 2 timing, 2 RP, 1 TQ (to control smoke), I'm not using TST, only for turbo cool down. My EGT's never get north of 1200. This 64 is way cooler than my 62.

On Smarty Level 5 or 7 or even on level 3 with TQ on 2-3 or RP on 3, I can get better top end but way more smoke down low. Too much smoke down low and I just can leave these programs in.

Cruising 70 MPH, I see 2-3 PSI boost. Above 2500 RPM, then turbo spools ok, above 2000 RPM, it lags some, below 2000 RPM takes a light foot. With a stick I think this turbo would be fine. For me I need to sell it or down size back to a 62 untill I can get a S400 to go with it.

Lee

steve05ram360

In your sig you mention the smarty... did you try to tune this setup at all? sometimes less is better...