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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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Another P-pump conversion question

IF you install a P-pump engine in a first gen, do you have to bypass the fuel filter/bypass the piston lift pump/install an airdog or FASS/upgrade the fuel pickup/upgrade the fuel lines/etc to make big power?


Just curious, because it seems like you have to do this with a VE to make "big" power.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Yea the 1/2 line from the airdog is fed straight to the ip.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 07:27 PM
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No that's not it. What I want to know if it's possible to make good power (500 whp) on all stock stuff... stock lift pump (would get a new one of course), stock fuel lines, stock tank pickup, etc.

I am kind of wondering what else would be involved if I decided to do a conversion.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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A 2nd gen lift pump will keep it supplied past 500hp.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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...which is the opposite of what he's asking.

I kid, I kid!
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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you kidder you!

Like I said, I was just curious. I would hate to swap in a P-pump engine and then have to do a bunch of other stuff.
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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I run a piston pump on my p-pumped first gen. It does fine up to 700 hp. Above that the pressure starts to drop. I added a FASS HPFP and plumbed it into the front of the pump. I only use it when i need it and it seems to work well. The two will hold 40psi at over 900hp. Simple install, but probably not needed with just a 12mm pump.
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Old Dec 12, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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Oh I'm sorry and with a 180 or 215 pump I see it being very Possible with stock fuel system just watch pressures close don't want that rack to hang very scary feeling been there done that in our race truck.....
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