Another Fuel Related Question
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Another Fuel Related Question
I just purchased a 2002 Ram 2500 2 wheel drive with the Cummins 24V engine about 2 weeks ago. The following day I hauled a 2500lb trailer from Tennessee to New Jersey and back at the end of the week. The truck performed flawlessly averaging 19.1 MPG over the entire trip cruising along at 1850rpm's. I was very impressed. 2 days after we returned I went to start the truck and it would not turn over. Reviewing all the posts here on fuel related questions and the codes it was throwing ( P0216, P0460 ) it would leave me to believe that the ip pump is bad. Today, I checked and verified the fuel flow after the filter and also cracked open cyl 3 & 4 injectors to bleed the lines. Still would not start but was getting closer to starting after i bleed the lines. I finally erased all the codes with my $299 tool that i just purchased from autozone and the truck started up. I drove it around for awhile and no problems. The diagnostic tool shows no further codes now.
So the question is should i get ready to replace the IP? If i do this I might as well take the hit and replace the lift pump as well.
Any one else had this happen to them?
By the way, what a truck!!
Thanks in advance!
So the question is should i get ready to replace the IP? If i do this I might as well take the hit and replace the lift pump as well.
Any one else had this happen to them?
By the way, what a truck!!
Thanks in advance!
#2
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First off, welcome to the diesel world and to the forum!
Now, to the issue. Your report is a bit controversial: the engine won't turn over - bad starter contacts or dead batteries. Then, you report codes, with 0216 being the sign that you should budget $1,000 for a VP-44 in near future; then it starts. So, did it not turn over, or crank but not fire up? I do not think that erasing the codes (injection timing and fuel level circuit) would have anything to do with it starting up.
Since you will likely be working on the truck, install a fuel pressure gauge. It will tell you if the LP is feeding the VP with the proper pressure (5 psi min).
Now, to the issue. Your report is a bit controversial: the engine won't turn over - bad starter contacts or dead batteries. Then, you report codes, with 0216 being the sign that you should budget $1,000 for a VP-44 in near future; then it starts. So, did it not turn over, or crank but not fire up? I do not think that erasing the codes (injection timing and fuel level circuit) would have anything to do with it starting up.
Since you will likely be working on the truck, install a fuel pressure gauge. It will tell you if the LP is feeding the VP with the proper pressure (5 psi min).
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Hi, first of all welcome to the forum. MANY great people here to help you. What kind of fuel pressure numbers are you getting? With those codes, I'd say your injection pump's days are numbered.
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Not sure I understand the seemingly unrelated events you mentioned. You can be reasonablly sure with 216 code a new VP44 will eventually be required. Make sure your LP is working adequatelly. With higher milage, a LP replace is prudent with IP replace. JMHO
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I would guess that you have an air leak somewhere and the truck lost prime. The check valve on the output of the VP-44 is one candidate. Loose fittings anywhere on the feed or return lines are another.
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