Timmer

my buddy has a 96 with about 250k miles fo there abouts. he lives in fort wayne IN, and works for chevy there. hes thinking about selling his 12v and buying a new d-max. if you could tell him anything, what would it be?

i would love to buy it, a little body work, nothing major, some cleaning, and you would have a great truck. but i just got my 3rd gen. cant afford it.

its a auto, 4x4. runs just how you would expect a 12v to run

Mcmopar

how much???

CGA03

Reg cab or ext cab??

Timmer

ext cab.


and sent him a text on how much, wating to hear.

white in color.

Box5

what to tell him? you mean how much to sell it for, or why to keep it? lol

Timmer

id like to see him keep it. take the money hed pay for the d-max and build a tranny. i think hes got a jewl on his hands that hes not awear of.

wcbcruzer

Yeah, sounds kinda like my friend with an 03 Tundra. My friend works at Toyota and he sees all the new model Tundras coming in, so he gets tempted to buy a new one. This is what I tell him. Tell your friend to spend $2000 cleaning up the truck. Maybe paint it and get it re-upholstered, fix any little body damage, etc. Clean the engine compartment and the underside and make the whole truck look new again. Spend a few grand on a new torque converter, valve body, and other mods like fuel plate, gsk, and injectors.

After all that, I bet he'd like his truck better than a new Duramax and would thank you for keeping him from emptying his bank account. For under $7000 he could fix up his truck and have a lot of fun with it versus spending $50,000 on a new, but worse, truck.

Check out my old truck that I fixed up. Maybe you can give him an idea about how new he could make his old truck look.

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...10#post1363610

jester1542

My daughter recently bought a Duramax to replace her 96 Dodge. She tows ALOT and the first time she towed with the Chevy she started complaining how it wouldn't pull a flat trailer with two large bales on it faster then 60mph through rolling hills. The Dodge spoiled her, she could maintain 70mph pulling loaded 28ft horse trailers through the mountains. She isn't singing the Chevy's praises any more.

If she told him anything it would probably be "Don't do it" and she was/is pretty upset with the maintenance cost of the Dodge to boot.

96_12V

If he likes throwing away money and having the newest ride in town, with a good warranty, go and buy a brand new truck.

For me, I'll keep on driving mine which is at a very flat point in it's depreciation curve. Practical isn't always "cool" in many people's minds. Oh-well...

duratothemax

were both the dodge and chevy stock?

not doubting her and not looking for an argument, im just curious how a 180hp (or was it 160?) truck outpulls a 360hp truck.

ben

Scramblinman

Maybe it's like the video where the new D-max couldn't hang with "A crappy ol' Dodge"?

A 96 CTD would have 180hp with an auto, 215hp with a manual. She may not have purchased an 06 D-max, either.

Kroner

My dad bought a new D-max in July and I noticed the same thing. Without a trailer it would run circles around my truck (339hp), but hook it up to a trailer and it wouldnt touch mine. It seamed to lose hp with more weight. I would just put extra money in the dodge like everyone else says.

duratothemax

oh god not that video.


still even 215hp would be against a minimum of 300/520, but oh well not worth arguing.

jester1542

The 96 always seemed to be a strong puller. It wasn't stock but wasn't excessively moded either. It has an AFE stage I air filter, a DTT tranny, aftermarket injectors (probably 215s) and maybe an aftermarket fuel plate (not sure about that, we bought the truck used and didn't change the fuel plate but the truck seemed to pretty strong). The injection pump had been replaced so don't know if it had 180 or 215 delivery valves. The truck didn't smoke all that much after the injector swap, regardless of the acceleration, so I don't think they were 370s. Also, regardless of the grade the EGTs never reached 1250 when towing a loaded 3 horse trailer so I don't think any to radical was done to it. AFC and plate were set at mid range.

Empty the two trucks seemed to have similar acceleration to 60.

It is a 2002 Duramax and as far as I know still stock.

b.lee

the cummins makes more torque, hence towing better in the hills... right?