5th wheel newbie need hitch help please
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5th wheel newbie need hitch help please
Hey Guys,
Looking at trading in my bumper pull toyhauler on a 5th wheel. Dealer says an 18k autoslide is going to run me 2500 installed. Looking around the net i found a Hijacker 18k autoslide for around 1200 bucks. Would this be all I need for towing towing my new fifth wheel? I totally know nothing about 5th wheel hitches, but im smart enough to figure out how to install it on my truck myself and save a few bucks in the process. Was also looking at pullright 18k autoslide which is similar in price. Would also like something that comes with vehicle specific mounting brackets and not something I have to rig up to work. Little info if it helps.
My truck is an 07 4x4 quad SHORT BED
New toyhauler would be a 38x12 forestriver XLR 2990 hitch weight.
Here is what i found so far....http://www.adventurerv.net/hijacker-...t-p-11496.html
Thanks for your help guys,
Tom
Looking at trading in my bumper pull toyhauler on a 5th wheel. Dealer says an 18k autoslide is going to run me 2500 installed. Looking around the net i found a Hijacker 18k autoslide for around 1200 bucks. Would this be all I need for towing towing my new fifth wheel? I totally know nothing about 5th wheel hitches, but im smart enough to figure out how to install it on my truck myself and save a few bucks in the process. Was also looking at pullright 18k autoslide which is similar in price. Would also like something that comes with vehicle specific mounting brackets and not something I have to rig up to work. Little info if it helps.
My truck is an 07 4x4 quad SHORT BED
New toyhauler would be a 38x12 forestriver XLR 2990 hitch weight.
Here is what i found so far....http://www.adventurerv.net/hijacker-...t-p-11496.html
Thanks for your help guys,
Tom
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I find hitches are a personal thing, some like the rails going across the bed, some down the bed, some no rails at all. Some want a 5ver hitch that is gooseneck ball capable. My question to you would be... Can your truck carry the EMPTY WEIGHT hitch pin weight?
I know my truck is different BUT I only have 1400lbs to spare, can your truck carry 1590lbs more than mine?
My truck is an 07 4x4 quad SHORT BED
New toyhauler would be a 38x12 forestriver XLR 2990 hitch weight.
New toyhauler would be a 38x12 forestriver XLR 2990 hitch weight.
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I find hitches are a personal thing, some like the rails going across the bed, some down the bed, some no rails at all. Some want a 5ver hitch that is gooseneck ball capable. My question to you would be... Can your truck carry the EMPTY WEIGHT hitch pin weight?
I know my truck is different BUT I only have 1400lbs to spare, can your truck carry 1590lbs more than mine?
I know my truck is different BUT I only have 1400lbs to spare, can your truck carry 1590lbs more than mine?
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I know my truck is different BUT I only have 1400lbs to spare, can your truck carry 1590lbs more than mine?
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While you could haul that much weight you will likely be way over on your rear tire capacity. Each tire is rated around 3100 lbs. That's 6200 lbs for the rear/drive axle. I know that my 40' 5th wheel goes way over that. I've had as much as 8380 on the drive axle. I am now shopping for a dually because of that.
I am not looking forward to a catastrophic tire failure going down a mountain and around a curve at the same time. You can't fix Stupid and Stupid hurts...a lot.
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While a 2500 may pull a big Fiver, you are better staying within the limits of the truck, more or less. I think 12K, more or less, is the suggested limit on 2500's. I would look at a smaller trailer or a 3500 that is rated for more weight. 15 or 16K is about it on most 3500's.
I talked to a guy in my Fiver storage lot that had an 06 3500 dually similar to mine, though auto tranny & 3.73. He hot shots mostly oil field stuff with a BIG Gooseneck, maybe 35 or 40'. He routinely hauls up to 18 or 20k. His tranny went out at 160k miles. In retrospect, we agreed that was not bad for heavy towing.
At any rate, pay attention to your weight limits. There are also legal ramifications if you have an accident, especially if overweight is a factor, not to mention injuries.
I talked to a guy in my Fiver storage lot that had an 06 3500 dually similar to mine, though auto tranny & 3.73. He hot shots mostly oil field stuff with a BIG Gooseneck, maybe 35 or 40'. He routinely hauls up to 18 or 20k. His tranny went out at 160k miles. In retrospect, we agreed that was not bad for heavy towing.
At any rate, pay attention to your weight limits. There are also legal ramifications if you have an accident, especially if overweight is a factor, not to mention injuries.
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Pin weight is payload. The brochure for my 03 is 2310 for SRW and 4470 for DRW. They may have changed a bit but payload has little to do with power and more to do with under carriage equipment.
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Need to take your truck to a scale with the cab loaded up as you would a trip and see what is sitting on the front and rear axles. Mine was 2200 lbs full of fuel. the axle is rated at 6k lbs I think. It is on the drivers door. Then look at the tires and their weight rating. Add the 2 to get the max the tires will hold. My dyna pro are 3750 a tire for a total of 7500. The axles and springs are the same on 3/4 vs 1 ton. The 1 ton has helper springs but I run air bag to make up for them. So the 6k is under rated and was for the factory tires of 3150 a piece. You add in a dually and it give you more with more tires to spread out the load. You also get more stability. So let say for figureing purposes you you have 2500 lbs on the axles plus the 2990 if you load the trailer correctly and you are 5490 wich is under the limit and add 400lbs on the heavy side for a hitch and you are right at the 6K limit. I would recommend air bags as it will squate with that much and make your front end lose. So you should be ok on the axles. Your GCVWR on that truck is 19-20k and your truck will weight between 6800-7200 lbs leaving you about 12800 to pull. My guess is that trailer is rated to carry 12-15k so you will be over your GCVWR but not a whole lot. You will be pushing limits but not a whole lot. That length and short bed will be a PIA in the wind. It is duable but your are really to a point where a dually will handle better and give you greater confidence when you are driving. My GCVWR on my 03 is 19k and with my 32 i come in at 20K ready to camp. The only reason I went over the rating is I am 5200 in on the rear axle and 4100 on the front with air bag inflated to keep weight on the front axle. This is under my tire and axle ratings. I wouldn't do this with out the air bags and the tires I have. I also went with the B&W setup as it is well built and solid mounting. It has provisions for a short bed but the sliders are nice if you in a tight area with a short bed. Plus when the companion hitch is out in under 5 minutes I have full use of my bed. Bottom line is your pushing the limits with this combo and need a few upgrades beside a hitch to the truck and wind and passing trucks could cause you problems. I also wouldn't plan on getting over 60mph with that setup.
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Looking at the specs for the your trailer, I think your going to be way over weight since the trailer dry weight is 13440 lbs. My '03 has a max towing weight of 13050 and a GCWR of 20000 lbs.