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Old 08-20-2009, 03:45 PM
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2nd Gen. Exhaust manifold on a 3rd Gen.

Since Buddy wants to keep his thread strictly about water injection...

I will start this new thread (since I hijacked his) so we can discuss why anyone would want to put a 2nd generation exhaust manifold on a 3rd generation truck.

I've read several threads about the sound benefit, it makes 3rd gens sound less like giant rice burners when they are piped...

But what I am curious about, and I'm sure several others are, does it flow better than a 3rd gen manifold does?

In theory to me, it would seem like the CR manifold would flow better because it came from the factory with more HP than the 2nd gens did.

Thoughts?
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IMO they flow nearly the same, but the 2nd gen manifold could have the edge because of its position, it is closer to the engine and the turbo is clocked different. I believe this could help spoolup in certain conditions over a CR manifold... I will be doing this but can't say when, it is my next priority for my truck so I'm hoping a couple of months...
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yup, i agree with cbrahs. also i think that the 2nd gen. manifold is also used with the larger single turbo setups like the s300 and the Aurora 5000.
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In due time my friend , gotta get the funds straight. Too many things I want to Bomb, not enough dinero....
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Originally Posted by megacabdad
Since Buddy wants to keep his thread strictly about water injection...

I will start this new thread (since I hijacked his) so we can discuss why anyone would want to put a 2nd generation exhaust manifold on a 3rd generation truck.

I've read several threads about the sound benefit, it makes 3rd gens sound less like giant rice burners when they are piped...

But what I am curious about, and I'm sure several others are, does it flow better than a 3rd gen manifold does?

In theory to me, it would seem like the CR manifold would flow better because it came from the factory with more HP than the 2nd gens did.

Thoughts?
Dang makin a brother feel bad.....
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Originally Posted by Bswope
Dang makin a brother feel bad.....
You contribute to my threads like I do to yours...

With no relevant information at all!

But anyhow...

Do all twin setups use the 2nd gen style manifold because of the way it brings the turbos up higher?
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Originally Posted by megacabdad
You contribute to my threads like I do to yours...

With no relevant information at all!

But anyhow...

Do all twin setups use the 2nd gen style manifold because of the way it brings the turbos up higher?


Yep all twin setups use a second gen manifold, the manifold get turned upside down to get the secondary up higher.... I think II make a twin kit now that utilizes the 3rd gen manifold and puts the primary up over the secondary....
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Is there a difference between 12valve and 24valve manifolds?
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Originally Posted by megacabdad
Is there a difference between 12valve and 24valve manifolds?
Yep 12v is different than the 24v, not sure what the difference is but....

Anyone got a good place to get a HX 40 down pipe for a good price?
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Yes,the ports.

It is also much easier to work on and swap when the turbo is on a second gen. manifold.
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How are the $400-$500 manifolds holding up over time, compared to say the bad boy in the DTR store

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Mine has been fine,I have read were guys actually lost hp running a header.
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just curious how someone would loose power from swapping a cast manifold to a stainless header?
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Originally Posted by ScienceOfSpeed
just curious how someone would loose power from swapping a cast manifold to a stainless header?
Me too...

Does it have something to do with the turbo?


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